Agreed. Why do we feel the need to telegraph what we are doing, what we are willing and unwilling to do when combating ISIS? If they could, is there any doubt these monsters would be willing to set off a nuke in the middle of New York City or Los Angeles? And if they managed to do so, what would be our response? I for one think it's acceptable for our leaders to ask questions about the unthinkable prior to it somehow needing to become thinkable. I get the feeling that Trump is unwilling to take anything for granted. Uncomfortable? Yes. Unexpected? Probably. Unjustified? Not necessarily.
The bigger issue is the command and control gives him the right to order their use and the military as his subordinates are expected to do as they are told and refusing would be violation of the military legal code especially if in wartime. The only party after the fact who could deal with this would be the Senate who could then impeach him on the grounds of likely committing a crime against humanity or a war crime depending on how this was used. So would the commanders refuse his order to deploy?
Blah, blah, blah.....all this unsubstantiated blather just to name call and say Trump is "dangerous"....
Actually, a threat to nuke Mecca, Medina, Temple Mount and a vow to destroy every Muslim relic could work, if it comes from a guy who actually can do it, do not give a damn about "feelings" of zealots and have power to prevent retaliation.
What a bogus story! An "unnamed" source? Really? When the "unnamed" source comes forward and corroborates the story, then I may believe it. Let me clue you in, Democrats LIE. Probably one of Hill's operatives planted that story and I am sure that there will be plenty more, because they are dirty. WOW!
I don't know which clown is scarier: The clown doing the so-called reporting (pulling news out of his nether regions), or the clown who believes things media clowns babble about.
How could nuking ISIS result in anything other than increased terrorism? There is not one single realistic scenario where nuking ISIS would ever be necessary or justifiable. There is not point in leaving that option on the table.
Exactly. I think its a good question for someone who is going to be president to ask. Its one thing for a private citizen to have a general understanding that we don't use nuclear weapons. It's quite another thing to be president and be responsible for protecting the US. Then there may be certain circumstances where they may have to be used. Thinking that we will absolutely never use them is a fantasy that you would tell a child so that they can go to sleep at night. "Oh, don't worry son, we just have them to scare people, we will never use them!" Its bullsh*t.
i could argue it would scare the (*)(*)(*)(*) out of them especially if it mostly hit htier families.
You realize your plan requires threatening nuclear attack on a nuclear power for the actions of a religion in other countries, right? - - - Updated - - - If someone murdered your family, would you roll over and surrender to them or would you try to kill them?
your signature fits this thread title '"As soon as men decide that all means are permitted to fight an evil, then their good becomes indistinguishable from the evil that they set out to destroy."' .
depends. Everyoen reacts differently. History shows native populations have been cowed by acts like this. - - - Updated - - - the difference is good only becomes evil temporarily then reverts. WW2 is the best example.
The only scenarios in which we would use nuclear weapons is to retaliate against a nuclear attack or to prevent conquest of America. Neither are realistic scenarios against any combatant today. A defense advisor is not going to be bringing up either scenario. So this is Trump being so (*)(*)(*)(*)ing dumb that he thinks "why can't we just nuke the terrorists?" is a question worth asking three times. - - - Updated - - - What is the "native population" of a stateless multinational terrorist group?
It's a debate....is Trump A. just trying to ACT "macho" for his supporters and doesn't really believe his bluster about using nukes to "fight terrorism"? or B. he's bat-s*** crazy and actually believes it? I HOPE he's just lying and pandering to morons on the Right. But either way, he's in trouble.... because the Hillary TV ads write themselves.
the terrorists in this case. I was giving you an example of when savagery worked to keep the other side in check. I think I wrote before that the one time the muslims were broken to live in an empire of another faith was the mongols and thats only because they literally razed the entire city in response to any terrorism (like the assassins)
Except "Muslims" weren't broken by the Mongols. Within a generation, many of those Mongols had converted to Islam themselves and major Muslim states in Africa were untouched. - - - Updated - - - Except "Muslims" weren't broken by the Mongols. Within a generation, many of those Mongols had converted to Islam themselves and major Muslim states in Africa were untouched.
the initial ones were. THe ones in the area of samarkand. These were the ones genghis himself fought not the rest. Notice that there were no large scale rebellions and a muslim writer said you could put a plate of gold on your head and walk from one city to the next. Sometimes if your dealing with people like ISIS force is the only language they understand.
And that works for a generation. Then those same formerly cowed people turn into groups like the Timurids and go out for revenge.
Fair enough...but NUKES? Do you understand what a nuclear weapon IS? Do you understand what the reaction to using one ANYWHERE would be? Clearly Trump does not.
sure and yes I do. Maybe it will tell the muslims the gloves are off. I dunno. Right now I cant imagine using it. Add a couple more Nices 9/11's etc. Then maybe.