So it Begins: This State Forces LGBT “Accommodation” Rules on its Churches

They deserve my new protection because the fruit loop religious Conservative contingent has decided to single them out for discrimination so that they can motivate their sick in the head political base.

 

So you can't justify it with any real facts other than personal opinion. Got it.

And all laws discriminate against dozens of groups so using that word isn't helping your argument.

 

The state has no compelling interest in allowing discrimination against this group. Discrimination is allowed if a compelling interest can be made IN COURT. None has yet been made so discrimination against this group is not allowed.

 

*yawn*

 

The state is not responsible for defending itself against every single group that claims its special. New law requires the said group to prove they are worthy of new law especially when the people have no say.

 

Actually that is the exact responsibility of the state. If you wish to discriminate you must prove compelling interest

 

I thought Religious organizations are specifically excluded from Federal public accommodation laws.

 

They are unless they are holding a public event open to non members of their church. Lots of churchs put on a San Genaro festival or pancake breakfast and if the public is invited then public accomodation law must be upheld

 

Obviously you did not even read the OP or the links. It explains a lot about your weak replies. From post #1:

The guidance specifically mentions churches as falling under the “public accommodation” restrictions against “discrimination” on the basis of gender identity: “Even a church could be seen as a place of public accommodation if it holds a secular event, such as a spaghetti supper, that is open to the general public,” the MCAD explained.

 

Which has been my point all along. During THOSE events it will be a place of public accomodation.

Such hate and anger in you. If that is what christainity brings I am glad I gave it up a long time ago.

 

I'm still waiting for ANYBODY to answer my questions?

I'm a christian and what is the OP referring to as "they were told this would NEVER happen" that is now happening?
What is being forced on churches?
As a christian myself please point out what rights of mine are in danger?
As a christian myself please point out what rights of mine are infringed by anything in the OP?

 

A black man and black woman have an albino baby with white skin. The baby isn't Caucasian.
The US is soooo a mutt nation. There are tests available to ethnically identify your makeup and roots. African, Asian, and European descent in percentage can be identified. Interesting stuff.

 

That is patently false. Name any constitution federal or state that claims that for making new law. Go ahead.

 

I have already explained the doctrine of strict scrutiny to you. ANY group may bring their case before the court if they feel they are being discriminated against and it is the state that MUST show a compelling interest in maintaining that discrimination. The injured party must act first by making a claim but then the government must prove it has a valid reason to maintain that discrimination. Did you really not know this?

 

Now you are starting to get it... keep it up and you can release your self from the self imposed ternary that is religion!

 

Wrong again. By that logic polygamy would already have been legalized and the push for that spans back several hundred years before gay marriage.

No country on the planet claims the responsibility is on the state to prove one group should not receive special rights just because that group wants them. The very act of introducing law is to compel people to vote for or against the party requesting the special right not to claim the responsibility is on the state to prove every single special group on the planet must have a reason to deny them their petition for special rights instead of making the case for those rights by the very group or representative of that group.

 

Polgamy has come before the court and the state has presented a compelling interest that the court ruled valid. Personally I do not consider it valid but that was the ruling. Our constitution is clear that all parties may bring their case and be heard and it is up to the state to prove the compelling interset in denying them a right. It is one of the things that makes our country great. EVERY SINGLE SPECIAL GROUP has the right to be heard and the onus is on the state to defend its position. This does not happen all that often since most issues are so obvious no one brings a case. The state allows medical schools to discriminate against low intelligence people applying for admission. I suppose low intelligence people could sue but I am pretty sure that discrimination would be upheld. But everyone with standing has a right to be heard

 

What does the fascist anti-Constitutional government want to do next? regulate religion (er Christians) oh yea they already are with this (*)(*)(*)(*)...

And these fascists have the audacity to call themselves "liberal"??? haha...

 

Why would a LGBTQ wanna attend a church in which the religion discriminates/doesn't approve of their lifestyle?

 

Do explain how unisex toilets are fascist?

 

The toilets themselves are not fascist - however forcing entities to install them and provide for what you call "unisex" is.

You do realize females don't want to share batrhooms with dudes and dudes don't want to share bathrooms with females? it's a biology thing - you know - simple science you reject?

 

This guy does not realize the same argument was made for whites having to share bathrooms with blacks

 

We have had both single sex toilets and mixed sex unisex toilets here in NZ for years. Nothing has happened because of it other than people acknowledge that they are going to the loo.

 

You mean every child and woman hasn't been raped by all the men also using the bathroom? That's absurd and goes against everything our cons keep telling us....

 

Well the thing is the unisex bathrooms are a choice, nobody is forced to use them. But now women are forced to share their own bathrooms with men who claim to be a woman just because it might be wednesday.

There is a difference is creating a unisex bathroom , and simply stating that men can go into the women restroom if they claim to feel like a woman.

Also, be lucky you are in NZ with much less of the problems we here in the USA have. Always wanted to visit there.