Final Battle Starting To Free Aleppo From Terrorists- As Per UN Resolution

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  1. 22catch

    22catch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It could just be what I said weeks ago in we lost and are trying to go out without looking like we got outplayed by Putin but geez.. This lvl of hostility seems to be past just wanting to save face. But I still hold that opinion and once Aleppo is taken we go from there and hopefully we can just focus on ISIS in Iraq
     
  2. Iranian Monitor

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    Assad would have suffered the same fate as Qaddafi, Saddam (never mind he deserved it), and all the rest of the folks who relied on the Russians to save them using the UN and other forums. It doesn't matter if the UN doesn't given authorization for outright military aggression; its many resolutions have basically worked to weaken those who the US was trying to take out. My own country knows a bit about UN resolutions and how helpful they have been!
     
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    Of course in the event of a mass evacuation, the trick is knowing who are the civilians and who are the jihadists? Deja vu alert! :roll:
     
  4. Iranian Monitor

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    As for what the US is after, the short answer is this: they were after a Project for a New American Century (a project to fund the military industrial complex in the wake of the end of the cold war, where the talk was about down sizing defense spending, while feeding the crazy fantasies of some pro Israeli zealot) which charted a path to get the US to take out the enemies and potential enemies of Israel throughout the Middle East and impose a Pax Americana. When that project ended in utter failure and, instead of allowing for a New American Century to emerge in the Middle East it paved the way for Iran's rise in the region, you had a Redirection in US policy. The focus became fighting and containing Iran and its rise, using the Saudis and company to create a Sunni-Shia division, and waging the fight on many different fronts all over the field (Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, Yemen etc). But for now, the Redirection notwithstanding, the US has not been able to stem the tide!

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/oct/08/iran-iraq-syria-isis-land-corridor
    Amid Syrian chaos, Iran’s game plan emerges: a path to the Mediterranean
    Militias controlled by Tehran are poised to complete a land corridor that would give Iran huge power in the region
     
  5. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Not any more! Russia is now self sufficient enough in everything, thanks to the sanctions, so that it can challenge the US without fear. Have you read the ultimatum it gave Washington when it broke the Plutonium deal? Nothing that extreme has ever been given to the US in all of its existence.

    Read the Voltaire article by Thierry Meissan, he said the missile that destroyed the Saudi's navy pride and joy was so highly sophisticated, and beyond anything that has ever been used in any battle, that it could only have come from Russia.

    As for the Russian proposal at the Security Council, had the Al Nusra terrorists left Aleppo, a peace deal could have been negotiated with the rebels and the war would have ended... but it is not something that Washington wants. Washington wants to break Syria and Iraq into ethnic and religious states that would be in friction with one another... and by doing so remain permanently weak.

    The oil wells in Raqqa and Mosul would become part of a fanatical religiously pure Sunnistan... something that is favored by Saudi Arabia and Turkey. Washington's intent all along other than a pipeline, has been to split the Shia crescent of Iran, Iraq and Syria which Russia has always depended on, to keep the Sunnis on Russia's southern flank separated from the extremists in the Gulf states.

    As for Thierry Meissan of Voltairenet, he tends to sound far fetched in his articles since he comes from a different observation point, but in the end I have always found him to be totally correct.


    http://www.voltairenet.org/article193570.html
     
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    I agree that Russia has begun taking a far more determined stance recently and I am very glad. I don't agree, incidentally, that the missile that hit the UAE vessel was made in Russia. Iran has quite a sophisticated arsenal of missiles and, frankly, the one that sunk the UAE vessel wasn't among the more sophisticated ones Iran boasts. It was quite likely a reverse engineered C-802 called the Noor.
     
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    Are you talking about the US bombing of Libya, Afghanistan, Iraq, etc.? Or American bombing "by mistake" in Syria?
     
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    Capitol needs a new design. You like?

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    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No I am not. Seems when confronted with the truth the only thing you can come up with is a LAME deflection.

    Russians are indiscriminately killing women and children and blowing up hospitals and schools WHICH IS A FRIGGIN WAR CRIME.
     
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    Time to take the city Assad. The bombing is just for political play at the expense of civilian life now. Soldiers die. Send them in hard under Russian air cover. End it for a dozen tactical reasons and a one big humanitarian one.
     
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    Syria is Assads and everyone else should get the hell out. He will be killing his people either way and ISIS will be his problem. If Russia wants it let them help him deal with the mess and pick through whatever pieces remain.
     
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    Understand that a LOT of propaganda is flying around concerning Aleppo.

    For instance, the French tweeted a picture of hospitals that supposedly the Syrians/Russians had bombed. Turns out the pictures were of bombed-out buildings in Gaza.

    Did you never hear before that the first casualty of war is the truth?

    The link below has the photos proving the lies of the French.

    http://angryarab.blogspot.de/2016/10/the-french-delegation-at-un-yesterday.html?m=1
     
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    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    what the hell does that have to do with the FACT that Russia is heavily bombing Alleppo and has taken out virtually every hospital in the city, while killing thousands of women and children?

    Oh right - NOTHING>
     
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    This is a lie. Bombing women and kids has no sense. Espcially for the side which tried to make a ceasefire agrrement destroyed by criminals from NATO and their ISIS allies. Bombing women and kids happened in Yugoslavia when it was needed to break the ability of the country to defend. Such bombing happened in Hiroshima and Nagassaki. In fact this has always been done by NATO war-school, which can only fight when everything is bombed our. There has never ever been any other political regime in the world history which used the same war tactics as NATO. So it is impossible that something like that is happening in Alleppo.
    The Internet has some vidos of what is bombed and what kind of war is there in Syria. Western propaganda has never been anywhere close the frontlines. They don't need to. Because they are not ordered to tell any truth about the war.
     
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    IF NATO capitulates in Syria at the point when stakes are as high - it would be the start of rapid decline. The only way to survive for NATO is reshaping and changing the complete strategy from world dominance to respecting the interests of the partners. In military conflicts, land issues, trade policies.and even cultural differences. Do you see any western leader or political paarty which is capable of it?
     
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    .......Uh.....NATO is not in and has nothing to do with Syria.
     
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    Oh, you need it broken down, eh?

    France accuses Russia of bombing hospital in Aleppo, providing pictures of said hospital.

    Pictures provided as proof turn out to be in GAZA, not Aleppo. Gaza is not even in Syria.

    What does that have to do with your assertion?

    EVERYTHING!!
     
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    Really? Let's try to find out who has the most forces at the moment in the war theatre of Syria? :) Try to find out yourself. And check about NATO, please? Amazingly NATO has more planes than Assad, Iran and Russia altogether. And more troops than kurds. (Turkey is also a member of NATO). :) But maybe it is just a coincidence and NATO keeps so much resources there in order to protect itself against the possible attack of North Korea... Who knows.
     
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    NOTHING. Or are you denying that Russia has bombed hospitals and schools and is killing thousands of innocent women and children, because of a fake photo?
     
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    Looks like logic is not your friend, ha?
     
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    Tragically your media is government controlled so naturally you wouldn't have the first idea of what is actually happening in Syria.
     
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    Russia is bombing as many hospitals in E. Aleppo today, as it was bombing in other parts of Syria in the past:


    [video=youtube;mm4Zo9ALv7w]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mm4Zo9ALv7w[/video]
     
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    :)))) Sure thing. The source of propaganda which lied so often that lost every sense of reality using a fake photo should obviously have told truth in all the numerous previous cases... :))) I admire the sense of superioruty of europeans. For some reason they think themselves to me the smartest a$$es in the world especially in cases of their greatest stupidities.

    PS. What is the reason for russian aircraft to bomb hospitals and schools?
     
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    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Jonsa let me ask you something. If Washington cared about the Syrian people in E. Aleppo, then why did they veto the Russian proposal? Russia offered the Al Nusra terrorists the chance to leave with their arms, that way the Syrian army could get some aid into the city.
     
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    What are you basing your claim on ..... Kerry's lies ........ like this one on Friday?

    Kerry's assertion fell apart at the State Department briefing.

     

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