Final Battle Starting To Free Aleppo From Terrorists- As Per UN Resolution

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Not at all. But NATO IS involved and it CAN result in a war just the way I was telling a decade ago.

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Russia neither. NATO bombed civilians in Yugoslavia and they were levelling Iraq. From time to time NATO destroys civilians in Afghanistan. But not in Syria. In Syria NATO bombed only the sides of the civil war and those unlucky civilians who were around. The same is done by russian aircraft. There is no aim to bomb civilians. But civilians surely die because of the war. The current propaganda hysteria is not a fact. It is just an information background for westerners because of a possibility of a bigger war.

 

Are you supporting the terrorists who are holding the people in East Aleppo hostage... because that's what it sounds like. In the Western part of the city, 1 1/2 million civilians are under the protection of the Syrian government, and hundreds are being killed from shelling coming from the Eastern part of the city. Don't their lives matter?

Would it be because Saudi Arabia and some others countries are in alliance with the terrorists, and are working towards the same geo political advantage? If so then why is it being presented as a concern towards human lives, when it is anything but?

If you get on to the link, there's a video of a reporter near the boundary of East Aleppo. He shows what's going on.

https://www.rt.com/news/362205-aleppo-isis-snipers-exclusive/

 

Woogs- Shoigu the head of Russia Defense said six months ago, that if a peace solution wasn't found in Syria by the summer, it will end up in a major war between Iran and Saudi Arabia. Does it have anything to do with what's going on now, because I read there are 60,000 Iranian troops in Syria?

Also according to Thierry Meissan of Voltairenet, the pride of Saudi Arabia's navy was destroyed by a missile so advanced that it could only have come from Russia. Was it a warning to them not to interfere in Syria, because according to Thierry, this is why Saudi Arabia wants the US to enter the war.

I somehow sense the so called secret conversation Kerry had with the Syrian opposition at the UN where he told them it was against International law to attack the Syrian army, was really the Saudi delegation.

 

I thought it was a UAE ship? Anyway, I heard that it was a Chinese missile, but Iranian Monitor says that Iran has reverse-engineered it so it could have come from there.

Speaking of Yemen, on Saturday the Saudis bombed a funeral, killing scores and wounding many more. This prompted a UN condemnation and even the US issued a statement saying it was re-thinking its support of the Saudis in Yemen.

Then yesterday the US accused the Houthis of firing 2 missiles at a US warship that didn't hit their target. Hmmm .....

What I'm seeing at this point is that the US made its anti-Saud statement on Saturday, then turns around with this accusation of Houthi missiles to justify continued support of the Saudis.

I could be wrong, of course, but it makes absolutely no sense for the Houthis to pick this time, when they were finally getting some notice that might help to end the war sooner, to decide to fire on a US Navy vessel.

Seems to me that the US felt compelled to say something about this obvious Saudi atrocity, but needed a reason to continue, and possibly escalate its support of the Saudis in Yemen.

Here's the US statement:

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In a statement, White House National Security Council spokesman Ned Price said that a “troubling series of attacks striking Yemeni civilians” had prompted the US to rethink its position.

“We have initiated an immediate review of our already significantly reduced support to the Saudi-led coalition and are prepared to adjust our support so as to better align with US principles, values and interests, including achieving an immediate and durable end to Yemen’s tragic conflict,” the statement said.

Price warned Riyadh that US-Saudi security cooperation was “not a blank check.”

 

The Syrian Opposition, from beginning to present, has been almost entirely composed of Islamist nutbars.

The "Patriotic Syrians - the one's fighting for individual rights and freedoms/freedom from strict sharia theocracy/ freedom from the Islamist's - are the ones fighting for Assad.

The civil war - call to Jihad that unifies to opposition - is to establish strict sharia/theocracy as the of the land/political system in "Secular" Syria which is by definition, is the primary goal of "Islamist's/militant extremists"

 

The UAE ship was hit by what most reports suggest was either a C-802 (manufactured in Iran as the Noor) or a C-704 (manufactured in Iran as the Nasr-1). These are both decent missiles, but they are not among the top of line anti-ship missiles in Iran's arsenal such as the Qader.

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The image below compares the smaller Noor (copied from C-802) with the Ghader. The Qader carries a much bigger punch and can do a lot more damage than either the Noor or the Nasr missiles which are copied from Chinese designs.



Qader anti-ship missile

 

Obama and Hillary goofed bigtime a while back by branding Assad "a tyrant", which triggered Russia into jumping on his side for a cut of the oil when things settle down.
Assad seems alright to me, here's him and his dishy wife posing for selfies with Christians in Syria..-

 

Thanks for the clarification. Got an opinion on the alleged Houthi missile attack on the US Navy destroyer?

 

NATO is involved? Perhaps in a parallel universe or in Russia that is believed, but the fact is that NATO isn't involved.


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Yeah, all those videos, the millions of refugees, the complete destruction of Syria's second largest city. Its all just HYSTERIA!

 

It seemed they were shoulder fired rockets. I don't think their real aim was to hit the US destroyer either, but rather more to make a point. Namely, that US warships could be next.

 

Keep earning those rubles.

 

Getting your info from RT these days I see.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-14703995

Actual facts can be really annoying, can't they?

 

What a tangled convoluted nightmarish ball of string!-

 

I can post a dozen articles that will tell you a different, and much more accurate, story about how the whole thing started. All of them articles from even so-called mainstream sources in the US.

 

I think it's stupid for people to blame Assad and Russia, who is Syria's ally. Blame the Syrian rebels who've captured the city, and whose intent and actions have been to overthrow the legitimate government, headed by Assad.

 

A dogs breakfast which is perhaps why any viable solution is so elusive.

 

I am absolutely sure you can post said articles. But I'm also absolutely sure that they will be full of inaccuracies, misrepresentations and fallacies, of the like that one usually finds in propaganda.

 

Propaganda is lies and distortion of the truth to influence people. Here's an excerpt from an article in Consortiumnews explaining the propaganda used by Washington in the Syrian war:

"...The results of similar media manipulation can be seen in the widespread misunderstanding of the conflict in Syria, amid the demonization of the Syrian government and leadership and the skillful use of social media by anti-government activists. Influenced by both mainstream and this alternative media, most people in the West do not know that Bashar al-Assad remains popular with many Syrians. Nor do they realize that Assad won an election two years ago.

There were three contestants in the Syrian presidential election of June 2014. Turnout was 73 percent of the registered voters, with 88 percent voting for Assad. In Beirut, the streets were clogged with tens of thousands of Syrian refugees marching through the city to vote at the Syrian Embassy. Hundreds of Syrian citizens living in the U.S. and other Western countries flew to Syria to vote because Syrian Embassies in Washington and other Western capitals were shut down.(To keep them from voting).

While Secretary of State John Kerry was condemning the Syrian election as a “farce” before it had even happened, a marketing company known as The Syria Campaign waged a campaign to block knowledge of the Syrian election. Along with demonizing President Assad, the company launched a campaign which led to Facebook censoring information about the Syrian election..."​

https://consortiumnews.com/2016/09/23/how-us-propaganda-plays-in-syrian-war/

 

Worth a few rubles I suppose.

Are you seriously telling us that you believe that the Baathist regime of Assad (inherited from his father you may recall) actually runs fair and free elections? No you can't be serious because that is just too big a joke.

 

Unfortunately she does and did in the past too.

Strange is that you can of course have different views about how democratic and free elections are in reality ... freedom of speech ... but Jeanette is someone who defends "democracy made by Assad" as democratic election one side, but denies that our westerns elections are really democratic on the other side and that smells bad to be brainwashed by some Anti-West propaganda BS at least which dazed the brain as usual.

 

Jeannette,

We have in Germany the nee keyword of “lying press / media” which has in core a truth inside. This is given by 2 major facts:

a) Pure news are too often packed into an article of the reporter / journalist which shows his own opinion and point of view of the issue and so has nothing to do with pure “news reporting” about what happened when/where/why etc.
b) Too often are news not reported in mainstream media out of several reasons, because a self-censorship not to report things which can cause anger in public against groups.

So it is not easy to filter the pure news out of reports etc. without noting the opinions of others … and here I have full understanding for any critics against these sorts of media.

BUT … you are doing not better, because you are quoting the same sort of BS as truth, but only from the other side. Maybe you are too annoyed about the “lying press”, but then please don’t start to believe the bashers on these media, because they are doing same sort of propaganda too. Your post about the elections in Syria show this unfortunately too clear, because with some use of brain and looking on circumstances in which Syria was before rebellion under Assad regime will open your mind. I’m allowed to say in my country that Merkel is stupid and ignorant? Yes I am … but were people allowed to say this in Syria without consequences when “wrong people” listen to it? No!

There was never ever any free election in Syria under Assad regime, simply because Assad will not risk anything to lose power and the electoral participation does say nothing as we all know … the sort of how and who you can vote and how the results were counted correctly is the point.
But because you told in the past still that the elections in Eastern Europe during cold war were democratic, it shows that you have lost any sort of realities here. What the hack is democratic when you have to fear consequences in East Germany when going into the voting chamber to set your choice in secret instead only folding the election paper as it is and throwing into box … and this folding means by their law that the leaders are voted? Is this democratic?
And point was at least that pure by statistic the final result before collapse of East Germany was impossible as reported in media… bad mistake of the Stasi by wrong mathematics they use (aside fact that they later confirmed that all elections were faked and election results were decided by the Politbuero of SED in front, no matter what real result was)!
But when you then tell that all was democratic, what shall people think? Nothing else other in Syria in core about their elections Jeanette!

 

Yes "fair" elections in a dictatorship and one in middle of a civil war no less is a joke but let's also not forget that at this time Assad's Syria - which consists of a few Millions of Syrians - have no choice but fight to win, the "Nusra" or whatever they call themselvs today will butcher them all if they assume control and they are dedicated to it on suicide level in the name of God, that's how twisted the Syrians became from this war, the Nusra will not sit with regime members in the parliament house.

So real democracy wont work regardless, it was a joke to demand it and a joke in the process, the US coalition should set their own limited goals not related to Nusra but more on forces layout in the aftermath and work with Russia, the tenstions between them are stupid.

 

"Legit"........he is a dictator son of a dictator his legitimacy comes from power and that's a pill hard for swallow to westerners, but I agree blaming them is hypocracy, if any of western cities were in such a mess they would do the same thing.

 

Maybe the daily job in parliament looks then like this…

We have 2 major problems in Syria which hinder any attempt to solve situation:

1. Too different ratings on all sides who and what is all terrorist and not … including the old thinking of “enemy of my enemy is my friend” given.
2. Too much local interest of too many powers outside Syria to back their party in the conflict not to lose

And also it is not really only the USA on one side … Turkey is more involved as the USA and only interested in their own goals here … which are not really complete the same as those of the US and the Erdogan regime is working on their own!
However … ask yourself who is really fighting the ISIS in Syria with bombings and all the stuff. Russia? No, only some Alibi attacks, but in majority Al Nusra and FSA (which are in war with ISIS too) and backing Kurds a little bitwho are fighting ISIS and Turkish intervention.
Turkey? No, also only some Alibi attacks on ISIS only, but in majority bombing Kurds and backing FSA and Al Nusra …