Al Gore 2000 Presidential Concession Speech

Of course you were... If you were a former supporter as you claim, being concerned about a rigged election wouldn't change your mind. In fact, nothing he's said or been portrayed as doing would change your mind unless you were already in the colostomy bag for Hillary/establishment.

 

Really? You don't trust local news? I find that local news seems to be the least bias. It's before the youngsters have a chance to hit the big leagues and realize biasm turns into ratings

 

Faux News is the propaganda network for conservatives for 20 years. Owner Rupert Murdoch, inflicting his worldview on America and others. What a disgrace they've been, never winning an award in 20 years. But then, their cult-like viewership has extreme problems discerning reality from fantasy.

As for Al Gore, he is infinitely more professional, polished and reasonable than Donnie Trump.

 

And there's a tax loophole that Trump legally took advantage of, but people curse him and call him unfit because of it. Imagine that.

 

But are still vastly outnumbered by the spin on the MSM

 

I prefer the police state dictatorship so that Americans don't go to the polls uninformed about one of the two candidates. And Fox ALWAYS has a panel of R's vs D's in damn near every single segment. The viewers get both sides of the coin and the freedom to make their own decision. LW'ers only hate Fox because they're not biased towards Republicans and aren't afraid to expose the flaws of BOTH sides.

 

Yep. You have to pay for cable to even watch Fox. You can have the rabbit ears and tune into ABC, NBC, and CBS.

 

Okay... but shouldn't that be balanced out by fox?

 

FNC's programming is extremely biased towards the right-wing agenda.

 

Actually there was no "required" recount. Officials were only supposed to recount if they found significant errors upon the request.

 

The recount required was running the ballots back through the machines, after they were certified again with test ballots, that was done twice and Bush won.

Florida law did not "require" a selective hand recounts, it was left to the discretion of the local board of canvassers.

"(4)(a) Any candidate whose name appeared on the ballot, any political committee that supports or opposes an issue which appeared on the ballot, or any political party whose candidates' names appeared on the ballot may file a written request with the county canvassing board for a manual recount. The written request shall contain a statement of the reason the manual recount is being requested.

(b) Such request must be filed with the canvassing board prior to the time the canvassing board certifies the results for the office being protested or within 72 hours after midnight of the date the election was held, whichever occurs later.

(c) The county canvassing board may authorize a manual recount. If a manual recount is authorized, the county canvassing board shall make a reasonable effort to notify each candidate whose race is being recounted of the time and place of such recount."

With the wrangling going on between the Gore camp and the Counties, Broward initially refused to do the manual recount, the counties announced they would not be able to complete such recounts before the required date the turn in their results to the Secretary of State.

102.112 Deadline for submission of county returns to the Department of State; penalties.--

(1) The county canvassing board or a majority thereof shall file the county returns for the election of a federal or state officer with the Department of State immediately after certification of the election results. Returns must be filed by 5 p.m. on the 7th day following the first primary and general election and by 3 p.m. on the 3rd day following the second primary. If the returns are not received by the department by the time specified, such returns may be ignored and the results on file at that time may be certified by the department.

Gore went to court to get the law ignored and the FSC ruled that the counties should ignore the law and continue the recounts. By the time Gore switched to calling for a statewide manual recount he had lost the timeframe within which to do so. Again the FSC ruled the law should be ignored and there should be such a recount.

The SCOTUS was demanding the FSC show where they were deriving the authority to change election law and how electors would be selected which according to the US Constitution is the sole power of the legislature and where it got the power to usurp the Constitutional sole discretionary of the SecState just because they didn't like it. They never and their orders to do these recounts were dismissed on that and the equal protection problems in Florida law at the time with the selective recounts.

He also lost his bid to contest the election base on tabulation errors and bad ballot designt and everything else he could come up with.

 

which has nothing to do with thread

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i already gave you the law #

go look it up again

 

yes there is, i already cited the law#

 

did you just gloss over the fact they took this all the way to the supreme court? thats hardly someone who gave a concession... he took it to the ULTIMATE ends!!!

the only reason he kinda conceded but didn't really, is because there was NOTHING LEFT TO APPEAL TO LEGALLY...

 

Not exactly. There was a mandatory recount. It was "completed" before the Supreme Court got involved. The issue brought forth before the Supreme Court was over other recounts. Gore went and asked 4 counties to recount(after the mandatory recount you mentioned). After it was done on Nov 18th and bush was declared the winner, Gore started filing lawsuits. He didn't accept his defeat. He fought it as long and as hard as he could until he couldn't anymore. Then he accepted it.

edit: while not agreeing with their decision.

Now the U.S. Supreme Court has spoken. Let there be no doubt, while I strongly disagree with the court's decision, I accept it.

I copy and pasted directly from speech. Don't know why the italics on the rest. It only had strongly italicized.

 

But you didn't read it

'If a sample recount pursuant to sec. 102.166 (5) "indicates an error in vote tabulation could effect the outcome of the election"

There is no guaranteed recount. They have to find evidence of a significant enough error in a sample to justify a recount. This was never established and even after recounting over 624,000 ballots in Miami Dade and finding only a difference of about 100 votes the Democrats were arguing that the remaining 1000 ballots that had yet to be counted would have the votes Gore needed to win which was statistically impossible.

 

That is the text of the law genius.

 

no you need to look it up. i just read it

 

That was a synopsis straight from wiki. Apparently you read something that is completely inaccurate. I was alive, old enough, and it was the first presidential election I was able to vote in. Shall I post it so you can read what actually happened?

edit: will just post it anyways:

On November 8, 2000, the Florida Division of Elections reported that Bush won with 48.8% of the vote in Florida, a margin of victory of 1,784 votes.[SUP][3][/SUP]The margin of victory was less than 0.5% of the votes cast, so a statutorily-mandated[SUP][4][/SUP] automatic machine recount occurred. On November 10, with the machine recount finished in all but one county, Bush's margin of victory had decreased to 327.[SUP][5][/SUP]According to author Jeffrey Toobin, later analysis showed that a total of 18 counties—accounting for a quarter of all votes cast in Florida—did not carry out the legally mandated machine recount, but "[n]o one from the Gore campaign ever challenged" the notion that the machine recount had been completed.[SUP][6][/SUP]Florida's election laws[SUP][7][/SUP] allow a candidate to request a county to conduct a manual recount, and Gore requested manual recounts in four Florida counties: Volusia, Palm Beach, Broward and Miami-Dade, which are counties that traditionally vote Democratic and would be expected to garner more votes for Gore. Gore did not, however, request any recounts in counties that traditionally vote Republican. The four counties granted the request and began manual recounts. However, Florida law also required all counties to certify their election returns to the Florida Secretary of State within seven days of the election,[SUP][8][/SUP] and several of the counties conducting manual recounts did not believe they could meet this deadline. On November 14, the statutory deadline, the Florida Circuit Court ruled that the seven-day deadline was mandatory, but that the counties could amend their returns at a later date. The court also ruled that the Secretary, after "considering all attendant facts and circumstances," had discretion to include any late amended returns in the statewide certification.[SUP][9][/SUP] Before the 5 pm deadline on November 14, Volusia County completed its manual recount and certified its results. At 5 pm on November 14, Florida Secretary of State Katherine Harris announced that she had received the certified returns from all 67 counties, while Palm Beach, Broward, and Miami-Dade counties were still conducting manual recounts.[SUP][10][/SUP]
Harris issued a set of criteria[SUP][3][/SUP] by which she would determine whether to allow late filings, and she required any county seeking to make a late filing to submit to her, by 2 pm the following day, a written statement of the facts and circumstances justifying the late filing. Four counties submitted statements, and after reviewing the submissions Harris determined that none justified an extension of the filing deadline. She further announced that after she received the certified returns of the overseas absentee ballots from each county, she would certify the results of the presidential election on Sunday, November 18, 2000.[SUP][3][/SUP] On that date, she certified Bush the winner and litigation ensued.

 

yeah right, the recount was required. gore accepted the decision.

nothing else to discuss

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so now the wikipedia story is incorrect

 

I just posted from Wikipedia. Check the edit.


I'll just post it again:

On November 8, 2000, the Florida Division of Elections reported that Bush won with 48.8% of the vote in Florida, a margin of victory of 1,784 votes.[SUP][3][/SUP]The margin of victory was less than 0.5% of the votes cast, so a statutorily-mandated[SUP][4][/SUP] automatic machine recount occurred. On November 10, with the machine recount finished in all but one county, Bush's margin of victory had decreased to 327.[SUP][5][/SUP]According to author Jeffrey Toobin, later analysis showed that a total of 18 counties—accounting for a quarter of all votes cast in Florida—did not carry out the legally mandated machine recount, but "[n]o one from the Gore campaign ever challenged" the notion that the machine recount had been completed.[SUP][6][/SUP]Florida's election laws[SUP][7][/SUP] allow a candidate to request a county to conduct a manual recount, and Gore requested manual recounts in four Florida counties: Volusia, Palm Beach, Broward and Miami-Dade, which are counties that traditionally vote Democratic and would be expected to garner more votes for Gore. Gore did not, however, request any recounts in counties that traditionally vote Republican. The four counties granted the request and began manual recounts. However, Florida law also required all counties to certify their election returns to the Florida Secretary of State within seven days of the election,[SUP][8][/SUP] and several of the counties conducting manual recounts did not believe they could meet this deadline. On November 14, the statutory deadline, the Florida Circuit Court ruled that the seven-day deadline was mandatory, but that the counties could amend their returns at a later date. The court also ruled that the Secretary, after "considering all attendant facts and circumstances," had discretion to include any late amended returns in the statewide certification.[SUP][9][/SUP] Before the 5 pm deadline on November 14, Volusia County completed its manual recount and certified its results. At 5 pm on November 14, Florida Secretary of State Katherine Harris announced that she had received the certified returns from all 67 counties, while Palm Beach, Broward, and Miami-Dade counties were still conducting manual recounts.[SUP][10][/SUP]
Harris issued a set of criteria[SUP][3][/SUP] by which she would determine whether to allow late filings, and she required any county seeking to make a late filing to submit to her, by 2 pm the following day, a written statement of the facts and circumstances justifying the late filing. Four counties submitted statements, and after reviewing the submissions Harris determined that none justified an extension of the filing deadline. She further announced that after she received the certified returns of the overseas absentee ballots from each county, she would certify the results of the presidential election on Sunday, November 18, 2000.[SUP][3][/SUP] On that date, she certified Bush the winner and litigation ensued.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bush_v._Gore


See anything about the USSC in there?

And yeah he accepted it, but strongly disagrees with the decision, which occurred after exhausting all avenues he could to have the results go in his favor.

You're getting the recounts mixed up. The one the USSC stayed was not the mandatory recount but a manual recount of all of Florida, that was going to be done after the mandatory recount was done and subsequent individual county(the 4 Gore requested be done) recounts were completed and certified. So it was the third recount the USSC stayed.

 

As has been said you have to pay for FOX and be inclined to watch it. Even being the most watched cable network leaves it far below the number of viewers of MSM and CNN and CNBC combined. Its not even close

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Only when it comes to opinion shows not the straight news. Wallace was by far the best of the moderators on the debates

 

2016 law, to which I believe you are referring was not in effect then, I cited you 2000 law which was in effect. Go look it up again.

http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes/index.cfm?StatuteYear=2002&Tab=statutes&Submenu=1

 

Gore filed in the state court his contesting the tabulation and he presented his case to Judge Saul who summarily dismissed it as without basis.