You're not considering the fact that the press would not report it if one of them decided to come forward. Do a YouTube search on "Chomsky media". It would also be downright dangerous for one of them to come forward. https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Mysterious+Deaths+of+911+Witnesses
How much more "inside" can it get? SecState, SecDef, an AF Gen? The head of the Defense Policy Board in the Pentagon? C'mon, man. Find out what? They plotted it!!! Read the PNAC report. Those boys WANTED another Pearl Harbor-type event. The Bush White House was absolutely crawling with Jewish Israel-first neocons. Our entire intelligence apparatus was being over-ruled by Judith Miller (a Jewish neocon) and Dick Cheney. Perle had already been busted for espionage against the U.S. back in the Scoop Jackson days but lawyered up and got off the hook. He was also the head of the Defense Policy Board and had his office in the Pentagon. He also quit his job a week after 9/11 and hasn't been heard from since. It's not far-fetched at all that there would have been cooperation between al Qaeda and Israel in 9/11. Sharon was absolutely apoplectic in his delight that America had been attacked and was finally drawn into Israel's dirty little war and, of course, bin Laden became an overnight sensation in the Islamic world. As for Bush, I believe he pulled the famous Reagan stunt, i.e., "do what you have to do, just don't tell me about it." Don't fret, my man, I also believe the Syrian rebels are working at the behest of Israel in Israel's effort to topple Assad. Israel is the key to the entire Middle East cluster-frig.
Any evidence for this? NO. And how did THEY find out? From who? So now even more knew.: the whole PNAC? Ahh.. Now Judith Miller was in on it too? So your initial Response/answer "6" was goofy nonsense. You're at least DOUBLE that now.. or 10x that.. or 100x that with execution. We still have NO coherent plot here, nor number: just that your "6" is now SELF-IMPEACHED (as you think of more jooos) Not far Fetched if you're on Ecstasy, that is. No doubt! +
This makes me wonder why they care. The answer of course is people invested in 9/11 conspiracies (whether sincere believers or lying scamming scumbags who'd rob their own grandmothers) are deeply invested in looking rational. Their so called movement is already on life support. They won't get the people back they conned during the Bush years; they were mostly from the left and snapped out of it after Bush left office. Now the "movement" has doubled down on the anti Semitism, seen right here in this thread, they're doomed to the fringes. This doesn't surprise me. What does surprise me is that money is still being funnelled into "respectable" fronts like Richard Gage's AE911Truth. Most of the "leaders" from the early to mid aughts have moved on and would like people to forget their failed movement. Why, if it was supposed to be a life and death issue, did they dropped it? Because it was a fraud, of course, and they knew it.
This is ridiculous and has already been addressed: "At some point you have to give up the "they're in on it" idea and accept the real reason is because your conspiracy is unfounded and not news worthy. "The press wants to keep people inside the box"? The press has many real problems, but censoring sensational news is not one of them. As for the press not covering truther info, if you really were around at the Loose Change forums, you know this not to be the case. Dylan Avery was on Democracy Now: http://www.democracynow.org/2006/9/11/exclusive_9_11_debate_loose_change Steven Jones was covered by FOX: http://www.foxnews.com/wires/2006Aug06/0,4670,Sept11Conspiracies,00.html http://www.foxnews.com/story/2006/0...oversial-univ-lecturer-theories-about-11.html And his friend Fetzer has had numerous FOX news appearances. As much as I despise FOX, it is part of MSM, albeit an extreme right form. The point is, the media were covering truthers in 2006. Then they stopped and truthers turned to Inforwars, RBN and other fringe outlets. I think the reason is the real media found out it was all smoke and mirrors and there was no story beyond conspiracy theorists being duped. But what I think is beside the point. Steven Jones, Richard Gage and Neils Harrit claim to believe they have evidence of the murder of 3,000 people. They should be agitating to get media attention all the time. Why don't they bother? This is life and death...well according to them. They aren't the only truthers failing to follow through with their alleged beliefs and avoiding the press. That chick Broulliet who use to run the San Francisco twoofer group, no one hears about any more, or Cindy Sheehan and Janice Matthews. Truther loon Kevin Barrett actually lost his wikipedia page( inb4 claims that Wikipedia is "in on it"). There is a reason they are avoiding the MSM lime light these days. Let's see if you can figure it out." Perhaps you'd like to take a stab at explaining the bold text.
It's been addressed but not debunked. Those links don't deal with whistle-blowers. Do you really believe that MSM would post the conclusive proof that the government planned and carried out the attacks? http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=456423&p=1066183060#post1066183060 The researchers would love to put their info in the mainstream press but they aren't allowed to.
What a very informative link: "There were no hijackers. 9/11 was an inside job. The US government planned and carried it out. The proof is crushing. Explosives Technician - Loader - AE911Truth.org www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5IgqJXyLbg ARCHITECTS AND ENGINEERS FOR 911 TRUTH (full unreleased version) www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-V1CiuGMJo Architects & Engineers - Solving the Mystery of WTC 7 - AE911Truth.org www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMEHc14IWf4" I had no idea Richard Gage's nonprofit organization, Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth, supported the idea there were no hijackers. Learn something new every day. Perhaps someone should invite him to the forum to expound on this? After all, if the proof is crushing, why wouldn't he want to? If he can't get on real media, he's gotta take what he can. Care to do the honours, Scott?
Oh for the love of Bob.... If you are implying the Reichstag fire was a false flag, is was not: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reichstag_fire And even if you're not implying a false flag, your comment fails because as Shinebox has pointed out, even after 9/11 happened, there is still no peep from the conspirators.
It was a false flag. A false flag is when a government starts something (like the riechstag) to get a piece of legislation passed. Hitler started the fire and blamed it on the Jews. How is that not a false flag? And I would beg to differ about no conspirator speaking up. Theres been quite a few.
Did not read the wiki link I see: In February 1933, three men were arrested who were to play pivotal roles during the Leipzig Trial, known also as the "Reichstag Fire Trial": Bulgarians Georgi Dimitrov, Vasil Tanev and Blagoi Popov. The Bulgarians were known to the Prussia police as senior Comintern operatives, but the police had no idea how senior they were: Dimitrov was head of all Comintern operations in Western Europe. The only proven similarity between the Reichstag Fire and 9/11 is it was cynically exploited as a political tools by those in power: The Reichstag Fire Decree suspended most civil liberties in Germany, including habeas corpus, freedom of expression, freedom of the press, the right of free association and public assembly, the secrecy of the post and telephone.[10] These rights were not reinstated during Nazi reign. However, taking advantage of a situation for political gain is not proof of creating the situation. Name some. Hell, name one "co-conspirator" speaking up about planning and succeeding in killing 3,000 people on 9/11. This ought to be good.
PROVE ME WRONG!!!!! Let's face it, pal, you are as in the dark about 9/11 as anybody outside the inner circle, only you may have been paid by the Jewish Entity to suppress well-reasoned theories.
Juvenile/Lost debate Alert! The old Burden Shift. I don't have to "prove you wrong". (though you went WAY over your initial "6"/self-destructed) YOU made the positive assertion, the Burden is on You to show evidence/proof. LOL +
Just a few paragraphs later it says this: "The responsibility for the Reichstag fire remains an ongoing topic of debate and research.[3][4] Historians disagree as to whether van der Lubbe acted alone, as he said, to protest the condition of the German working class. The Nazis accused the Comintern of the act. Some historians endorse the theory, proposed by the Communist Party, that the arson was planned and ordered by the Nazis as a false flag operation.[5]" Before I do here's link explaining why wouldn't there be any whistleblowers if that were the case. http://911research.wtc7.net/faq/conspiracy.html That said, here's a whistleblower. http://m.truthdig.com/avbooth/item/...inney_seeking_the_power_to_blackmail_20150515
A Guide to the 9/11 Whistleblowers by James Corbett https://www.corbettreport.com/articles/20100305_911_whistleblowers.ht m Not named by Corbett (besides Binney): Susan Lindauer [video=youtube;iGI4jfwOmOk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGI4jfwOmOk[/video]
It's all second-hand info so I'm not going to take a stand on it but here's some info on it. https://cse.google.com/cse?cx=01377....0.#gsc.tab=0&gsc.q=Reichstag fire&gsc.page=1
You can tap dance around and pretend all you want. The bottom line is that the proof that the US government planned and carried out the attacks is conclusive. http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=456423&p=1066183060#post1066183060
Not tap dancing, Scotty. That is what you imply in the link you keep linking to. I actually find it fascinating Richard Gage supports the idea there were no hijackers. And, to use truther logic, you haven't denied Richard Gage doesn't believe there were hijackers, so it must be true. And since you and others keep saying this so-called evidence is being suppressed by the media, I expect you'll be happy to invite Richard Gage to the forum to discuss this. After all, you clearly want to convince people and what better way than to bring a "truther expert". We'll leave this to you, Scott; since you visit his website, contact info shouldn't be a problem. I look forward to engaging with Gage on the forum. I do have many questions about his "work".
An "ongoing debate" is not proof of anything, much less a false flag. Most historians agree it was members of the Communist Party. I've highlighted whistleblower to show how deliberately dishonest you are being. The question was not about whistleblowers. It was about co-conspirators. These are two entirely different groups of people: "Not a peep came out of the conspirators to the Riechstag either until it happened. " http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=477904&p=1066760562#post1066760562 "And I would beg to differ about no conspirator speaking up. Theres been quite a few. " http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=477904&p=1066762323#post1066762323 "Hell, name one "co-conspirator" speaking up about planning and succeeding in killing 3,000 people on 9/11." http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=477904&p=1066762395#post1066762395 [It appears I misread your "conspirator" as "co-conspirator". My bad. But the "goal post moving " point stands. Neither one of those things are equivalent to whistlebowers.] Trying to "move the goal posts" like this is a scam tactic called "bait and switch". Either you were sloppy because someone has confused these concepts in your head, or you are arguing in bad faith. Now, as asked, name a conspirator who has spoken up, not someone who worked in the suspect organization who thinks something might vaguely have been wrong. A conspirator is someone who knowingly worked in a government agency on 9/11 and deliberately acted in a way they knew would lead to the deaths of 3,000 people and agreed that is was a price they were willing to pay for their agenda. Spoiler: there are no such people.
We were not talking about "whistleblowers". We were discussion conspirators, and Maccabee decided to change the terms of discussion. Not cool. That said, you realize Lindauer is a loon, right? And not just because of 9/11. Among other things she claims in her book to be psychic...so why didn't she warn anyone about 9/11? Then there's her acting out in court: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/17/nyregion/17lindauer.html?_r=0 "Judge Preska also cited Ms. Lindauer’s behavior in court last year, when, after being admonished not to speak without first consulting with her lawyer, she stuffed tissues in her mouth. That was “not the response of someone rationally connected to the proceedings,” Judge Preska said." Lindauer is not a credible witness. She needs help.
Besides Lindauer, another whistleblower of sorts is John Kiriakou. While he was not exactly a 9/11 whistleblower, he did confirm the CIA torture of detainees during the Bush administration. As well documented, "confessions" obtained from detainees were used to "support" the fake 9/11 Commission Report, including a "confession" by a detainee who was not allowed to read the "confession" he signed. Detainee "confessions" were liberally used in the report, comprising of about 25% of the footnotes. The Senate Intelligence Committee on Torture report states that torture did not produce any reliable/actionable intelligence.
Lindauer is a loon who claims to have psychic powers: http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=477904&p=1066764964#post1066764964 This has absolutely nothing to do with proof of " Theres been quite a few" conspirators in the 9/11 attacks speaking up. Try to focus, Bob. We're discussing people coming forward to admit they were part of a plot to murder 3,000 Americans on 9/11 and blame it on Al Quaida.