Guns for self-protection cause more harm than good

True.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MZBS_p-NVFI

 

And what is your solution?

 

When I lived in Southern Maryland, a Drug house opened up across the street, traffic all day long, people smoking Marijuana, you could smell it.

A Neighbor said he would stop by for a visit, I had snacks and beverages ready, Monopoly too,
I heard a knock, I thought it was Gary and opened the door, it was a huge Black Man,
Give me some money , he growled,
I had two dollars in a shirt pocket and handed it to him.

Not enough, he growled,
And started shoving me inside,
I pulled a 1911 .45 acp pistol, pointed it at him and snicked off the safety ready to shoot if need be.

He turned around and body slammed the door and frame so hard, I thought he would take it away with him !

He ran off into the night, I did not report the incident.

The next day Sheriff's Deputies were roving about asking Neighbors questions,
I mentioned My visitor,
Turns out he was a Serial Rapist, he would Rape anyone, men, women, children.

The Deputies were Furious that I had not killed him, and told me plainly I had done wrong by not killing this Serial Rapist.

That is my solution to the problem, let the Criminals kill each other off,
Let law abiding citizens defend themselves,
And Crime will continue to decrease.

 

Researchers have never proven this nor does any one with any common sense believe it.

Guns do not kill or terrorize anyone much less society which cannot be terrorized.

The rest is mere psycho babble

 

There is no suspense, if you were a regular on the forum Gun Control topic, you would have seen many posts regarding this....

71% of those arrested for violent crimes are recidivists. They have been arrested before for similar crimes........ 71%!!!!

Our criminal justice system is in serious need of reform. We need to end the failed war on drugs that incarcerates far too many for non violent criminals. This will help make room for the repeat violent criminal that our justice system keeps releasing onto our streets to create more victims.

Many of those convicted of violent gun crimes have long rap sheets. How does this happen? These folks should be behind bars for lengthy, lengthy sentences with no early release. Taking care of this problem alone will help curb inner city shootings quickly.

We allow felonious violent criminals to plea bargain down to misdemeanors in the interest of expediting the process. This needs to stop.
Our early release program lets violent criminals out of prison after serving only partial sentences.
We need stiff, stiff, penalties those arrested for flagrant violent crimes.

If we did this we would seriously have a large percentage of fewer victims of violent crime.
Our liberal politicians want nothing to do with stiffer penalties for violent crime. They already complain about Americas' incarceration rate.
To implement these policies that would lead to increased incarceration rates would disproportionately effect minorities.
BLM would go ballistic.

It's much more politically correct to attack our violence problem by going after guns, not criminals.

National Statistics on Recidivism

Bureau of Justice Statistics studies have found high rates of recidivism among released prisoners. One study tracked 404,638 prisoners in 30 states after their release from prison in 2005.The researchers found that:

Property offenders were the most likely to be rearrested, with 82.1 percent of released property offenders arrested for a new crime compared with 76.9 percent of drug offenders, 73.6 percent of public order offenders and 71.3 percent of violent offenders.

 

No soup for him !
Lol, too bad that guy did not get
his own show !

It is Psychobabble,
It lumps the acts of Criminals with legitimate self defense,
And confuses the true statistics regarding legitimate self defense and Criminal activities.

 

I'm not hiding my head in the sand. I understand they are minorities but that doesn't change the fact that it's not relevant.
The statistic is American.

 

But is is a false statistic, most Americans are good law abiding citizens and own guns and commit no crimes of any kind with their guns.
I myself am a certified Firearms Instructor and have trained People free of charge if they could not pay, you are talking about hard working decent People, not the Criminals doing the killing.

 

You think there's no relevancy to 13% of the demographic committing 51% of the murders in this country?

 

Wow, that was exciting!!! I was on the edge of my seat!!! I had an itch at the back of my head....it was my BS meter. It was in the red.
Why didn't you report it? They were FURIOUS you didn't kill him? Really? I'm happy for you you don't live there anymore because it would seem the police are as bad as the neighborhood.

 

This nonsense is why I'm not a regular on the forum Gun Control topic.

 

No, I'm not

 

My bad then.

 

Here then.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-25671/Violent-crime-worse-Britain-US.html

Now its your turn.

 

But what about violent crime in general? Not only that but our gun deaths are dropping despite the increase in gun sales and owners.

 

Nope, not there or for that manner in any inner city controlled by Democrats. Chicago will easily break 700 homicides and 4000 total shot for this year which is getting close to levels in the 70's and 90's and that with a city now with less population. It would break all time records if not for the advancement in trauma care and (*)(*)(*)(*) poor shooting of the Chicago bangers. Chiraq produces one fatality for slightly more than 5 shootings. Baltimore, another city setting homicide records produces one kill for every three shot. Impressive to say the least. So, no violent crime is not down except where White people live.

 

Not dropping near fast enough

 

Really.

If 51% of the murders in the US happened in one state, would that be relevant?

 

And gun control won't make it drop any faster. Most of the crime in America comes from anti gun democratic cities like Chicago and Baltimore. Not only that but you can't just look at gun deaths when comparing to other nations. You have to look at violent crime in general, how many big cities each country has and the crime rates of them, the gun control policies of the cities, and the culture of that area. If all things are equal THEN, and only then, can we look at the gun issue.

 

I disagree. We have to do something

 

A minor infraction and all is forgiven

 

But in the world of statistics that forum users here live and die with while what you say is true but in the big picture...doesn't matter

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Probably....but that's not the case

 

So now it's true but doesn't matter. No wonder there are scholarly papers written about how liberalism is a mental disorder. Black are killing Blacks at ever increasing numbers and they also lead in interracial violent crime as well. The MSM does its best to hide it.