Collapse? Clinton's 12-Point Lead Over Trump Has Completely Evaporated.....

guess you don't believe politics is nothing more than marketing. you are wrong

https://www.google.com/trends/explore?date=now 7-d&q=ABC tracking

every phone call a dnc fundraiser made last week started with the phrase " did you see that poll this morning" and it was every other story on the clinton news network

 

I'm sure every fundraising call did. I'm also sure that doesn't indicate the polling company itself is deliberately skewing its numbers. Especially when you provide zero evidence to suggest it is.

 

Lol, man you can't make this (*)(*)(*)(*) up...

 

Well, he's right in a general sense, that you can cherry-pick a time frame as well as anything else. That's what climate-change deniers do.

It makes no sense in this case, though.
-- The time frame isn't cherry-picked -- it's the current election cycle.
-- The other way you could cherry-pick is by setting the criteria for including a poll such that only polls whose results you like get included. Of course, there is no evidence that RCP does that, either.

The main problem with Windigo's logic, though, is that it could be used to argue that there is no valid data, because all data needs to be defined by some limits (time frame, geographic location, whatever), and those can all be cherry-picked, so we should assume they WERE cherry-picked (apparently) and not trust anything at all.

I guess that means we should just go with our gut and not try to measure anything.

 

You are the one who is making it up. Averaging is just as prone to cherry picking as anything else. What makes the sample. What is the time frame. All cherry picks.

 

No ae shouldnt speak in absolutes.

 

Yeah at least Bloomberg did after June of this year, huh?

 

first hour of the first night of my first prob and stats class many years ago the professor told us that if you want to make a living as a pollster you need to keep your clients happy. when you find some evidence it is not true let me know, until then I will rely on good judgement and common sense which are two things that are foreign to libs. Otherwise this would not even be a topic

 

Um, okay. And in public political polls, who are the "clients" you are trying to keep happy?

You want me to prove a negative?

 

you seem to out of rational arguments and just arguing to hear your keyboard rattle at this point. I am considering this conversation closed, it's not worth my time

 

LOL! So you assert deliberate bias, you cite a professor saying pollsters try to keep their clients happy, but then can't answer who the "client" is for a public political poll -- and thus, who needs to be kept happy. Which would seem to be an important thing to be able to state, if you are claiming bias.

Bye.

 

Other than those at Bloomberg and obviously Time Mag. But I am glad you think those people at Time Mag and Bloomberg aren't rational.

Its a start, for you to get away from the Dark Side.

 

In all the places I have traveled through in the past 3-4 months, I have seen many Trump yard signs and bumper stickers. Almost no Hilary signs and stickers, in some areas not one single Hilary sign or sticker.

 

Exactly, that is why it was a poll of likely voters so you comment made no sense.

 

Are you saying you don't know about those two Economic Models that haven't been wrong in a very long long time. Or the 2 professors and their models and they themselves not being wrong in predictions of presidential election results.

 

To bad most hillary supporters aren't likely voters after all this.

They are droping like flys

 

Obviously the link I gave you is beyond your comprehension.

 

I have the same impression.

The enthusiasm of Donald Trump's supporters is amazing...... One of his group...."The Deplorables" is over 370,000 active members.

 

I am not a Trump supporter, but the one thing that should give them hope is that Hillary isn't moving in the polls. 10 days out, she should be closer to 50%. She really should be over it if it is going to be the blowout the dems have been hoping for. There is some indication that the Dems retaking the Senate is slipping away from them in the last week or so as well. With a 3% undecided, and Hillary up by 4 with a scandal looming from which she cannot possibly be exonerated, it becomes a neck to neck race. Who is going to win. Who knows. It is going to be close and it may come down to a small western state.

 

Trump is almost certainly going to win the popular vote at this rate. The Electoral College votes remain up in the air, however. It just depends if the voters pledged to Hillary remain loyal if Trump blows her out of the water.

 

I agree. The Left PAID to have crooked polling done and the Left-Allied Mainstream Media pushed that fiction for them. Trump has probably always been pretty much neck and neck with Hillary, if not a little bit ahead of her most of the time. But the Left essentially controls the media in our nation and so it is what it is.

 

Clinton has been damaged by another October surprise. Will it finish her off? Maybe, but all these late election cycle shockers are losing their shock and awe.

 

Out-freaking-standing!

 

I agree. Well said. I am TIRED of the vast bulk of this nation's media WORKING for the DNC while claiming that they are politically neutral. Don't urinate on my leg and claim that it's raining.