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  1. RUS

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    Hitler wrote all logical.
    He was not on friendly terms with Stalin. He deceived him.

    Hitler lied to Stalin and Britain and France.
    Stalin hadn't the poisonous embrace.
    Stalin was caughted in the poisonous embrace of Hitler.
     
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    Who will negotiate with Hitler?...... after Hitler "negotiate" with the Czechs.:)
     
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    Jazz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Dear RUS, I think you are seriously ill and need to be seen by a doctor for a thorough check-up...
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdYaTa_lOf4

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    Jazz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Here is another excellent video of Adolf Hitler - The untold TRUE story:

    All our Jewish "Friends" on this forum should read and listen to this story, it is really true! It shows the other side of the coin. Everybody knows that Hitler rejected the Freemasons, the Jews, the Zionists and the Illuminati. But WHY?

    Check it out here:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vfdZtpx_ug
     
  5. ThirdTerm

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    "The Devils' Alliance: Hitler's Pact with Stalin, 1939-1941" is reviewed by Richard J Evans, the Cambridge historian who is quite familiar with the topic. Stalin had a secret agenda and he was intent on recovering Russia's lost territories, while exporting Communism to other countries. The pact gave Stalin enough time to build up forces to commence the world-wide revolution.

     
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  6. RUS

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    This is my answer to you and Richard J Evans,
    Hitler would not have to worry, and without the " Alliance". Becouse the Stalin was not ready for a war in 1940, 1941.
    Hitler needed resources for the conquest of Europe. Stalin gave it to Hitler.
    Stalin needed the technology and machines. Hitler gave it to Stalin.
    It was the practical essence of the pact 1939.

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    Hitler wrote all logical.
    He was not on friendly terms with Stalin. He deceived him.

    Hitler lied to Stalin and Britain and France.
    Stalin hadn't the poisonous embrace.
    Stalin was caught in the poisonous embrace of Hitler.

    1. Hitler said about the poisonous embrace of German Bolsheviks, whom the Nazi stormtroopers fought with one's fists in the streets of Berlin.
    2. Could you tell us what was the toxicity of Stalin's embrace? How Hitler had suffered from this embrace?

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    Your video was such a terrible and nasty that I tumble off my pot.[​IMG]
    You shouldn't watch such rubbish. See Russian films. Even on the language of engineers and accountants, they are the best.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQ1NZVsVp0Q
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFmWEnJqkM8

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  8. Jazz

    Jazz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Going on a much needed holiday!
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    The reason you have just advanced about why Hitler invaded Poland is exactly what was intended to be believed by "operation Himmler" and the Gleiwtiz Incident. IOW, you have bought the nazi koolaid of this rather famous historic documented false flag operation. That's nationalism for ya.
     
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    It is possible to add about >>>> why the British and French promised the help to Poland, >>>> the help which they did not planed to.

    My version:

    They were afraid that Poland will askes for help from Stalin against Hitler. The probability of this is very small. But this probability still was. Allies have eliminated that possibility for sure.

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    Dear Jazz , I wish you will have a good holiday.I am happy that my shaggy image will be with you .
    Do not worry about your pot.
    I will not give your pot anyone.

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    &#8194;It is a charming illustration for the magic melody.

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpJovjFLZ8o

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  11. Scott

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    All we have is a bunch of second-hand info so I haven't formed a firm opinion but everyone should check out what's said here at the 18:35 time mark.

    Hitler's War - What the Historians Neglect to Mention
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0E_Ewe8g2Y


    Germany didn't just take back what used to be Germany. They took control of the whole country. Maybe they had to take control of the whole country to keep the rest of the country from taking their part back again. It's also plausible that they were planning a big invasion of Russia and they needed the industry. I'd bet on the former but, who knows.
     
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    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Why?

    Because he was a raging racist bigot whose "truth" was a puss filled sack of murderous hate, that negated EVERYTHING else he did? Naaaaaah, it was because all those people he hated and attempted to exterminate "deserved" it.
     
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    I've seen quotes of his in which he sounded like that but when I listen to his speeches, he never sounds like that. I wonder if those quotes I read were bogus. I wouldn't be too surprised if they were.

    I haven't listened to all of his speeches and there might be one in which he sounds like a fascist that I haven't heard yet.

    I haven't watched this video yet.

    Hitler: The Ultimate Collection of Speeches V2 - 3 Hours of Hitler Speeches
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SI2vEzU9QFY


    If someone can find a video of one of his speeches in which he is saying fascist things, please post it for me.

    Here are two very important ones.
    https://www.youtube.com/results?sea...s+Reasons+For+Invading+The+Soviet+Union&sm=12
    https://www.youtube.com/results?sea...r:+Explains+Reasons+For+Invading+Poland&sm=12
     
  14. RUS

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    I had answered it.

    Hitler outlined his thoughts and plans in Mein Kampf. In your videos only Hitler's word to the public.
    What do not you understand here? Ask please .
     
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    Here's another one.

    James H. Fetzer Interviews Benton L. Bradberry - The Myth of German Villainy [Part II]
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8-5EZTeqOI


    I still haven't taken a firm stand but this certainly makes more sense than the official version. I'd bet that it reflects reality.
     
  16. Triarius

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    SUMMER MONTHS OF 1939

    HITLER ATTEMPTS TO PEACEFULLY RESOLVE DISPUTE OVER DANZIG & THE ‘POLISH CORRIDOR’
    (Stolen from Germany after World War I)

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    "BERLIN THINKS DOOR IS LEFT OPEN TO PEACEFUL SOLUTION"
    The August 28th headline of the Hitler-hating New York Times confirmed that Hitler sought to avoid war with Britain & France.


    The “free city” of Danzig is 95% German. Along with its surrounding German area of East Prussia, Danzig was isolated from the German mainland by the harsh post-World War I treaties. Formerly German territory now belongs to Poland, cutting right through the Prussian/Pomeranian region of Germany. As had been the case with Germans stranded in Czechoslovakia, the Germans in Poland (those not expelled in 1919) are a persecuted minority.

    Hitler tries to solve the problem of the "Polish Corridor” peacefully. He proposes that the people living in Danzig, and the “corridor” be permitted to vote in a referendum to decide their status. If the region returns to German sovereignty, Poland will be given a 1 mile wide path, running through Germany to the Baltic Sea so that it would not be landlocked.

    The Poles consider Hitler’s solution, but behind the scenes, Poland is urged by FDR to not make any deals with Germany. When it becomes apparent to Hitler that Poland will not allow a referendum, he then proposes another solution – international control of the formerly German regions. This sensible offer is also ignored. The Globalists intend to use foolish Poland as the match which ignites World War II.

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    Germans stranded in the stolen 'corridor' and the "free city" of Danzig were abused and denied the right to self-determination.


    AUGUST 25, 1939
    BRITAIN & POLAND AGREE TO A MILITARY ALLIANCE


    The Polish-British Common Defense Pact contains promises of British military assistance in the event that Poland is attacked by another European country. This builds upon a previous agreement (March 1939) between the two countries, and also France, by specifically committing to military action in the event of an attack.

    With this agreement, powerful Zionist-Globalist forces in the UK have now trapped the reluctant Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain, as well as France and Poland. All that is left to do now is for Polish-Jewish border thugs to deliberately provoke Germany into action and get the ball rolling.

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    The British-Polish Common Defense past was forced upon Neville Chamberlain.



    AUGUST 31, 1939
    THE GLEIWITZ (and other) BORDER ATTACKS / JEWISH-POLISH GUERILLAS ATTACK GERMAN RADIO STATION


    Overestimating their strength, underestimating German strength, and knowing that France and the UK would now be forced to back them, Polish-Jewish terrorists cross the border and attack a German radio station in Silesia, Germany. It is actually the latest in a string of deliberate border instigations against Germany.

    The "Poles" then broadcast a message (in Polish) urging others to take up arms and start attacking Germans. German police quickly arrive and retake the station, killing one of the Red terrorists. Jewish Red terrorists, their Polish government protectors, and their Globalist-Zionist masters have picked a fight with Germany!

    Modern historians claim that the Gleiwitz incident was staged by Germans dressed as Polish terrorists. But as is the case with the Reichstag Fire conspiracy theory, they offer no evidence, (beyond a forced “confession” obtained after the war) to support this theory – a theory that ignores the outrageous and repeated pattern of provocations directed at Hitler's Germany ever since 1933, the numerous border incidents, and also Hitler’s sincere attempts to negotiate a fair resolution to the Corridor and Danzig controversies.

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    Soon after broadcasting a call to kill Germans, Polish-Jewish partisans, with the blessing of the Polish government, kicked off the war between Poland and Germany.

     
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    Hitler has had about all he could take from Poland!

     
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    SEPTEMBER 17, 1939

    SOVIET UNION INVADES POLAND FROM THE EAST / ALLIES SAY NOTHING!

    With the Polish army being routed by the advancing Germans in the west, Stalin cleverly decides to break the Soviet-Polish Non Aggression Pact of 1932. Poland is stabbed in the back as Soviet forces pour in from the east. The advancing Reds carry out massacres, the most infamous being the Katyn Forest Massacre in which 10,000 Polish Army officers are shot in the head.

    Other than the pre-Versailles German areas which Germany will reclaim, the Soviets will take.all of Poland.In a shocking double-standard,the anti-German Globo-Zio press, FDR, France & the UK remain oddly silent about this brutal Soviet aggression.

    Poland appeals to Britain for help, citing the Poland-British Defense Pact just signed a few weeks ago! The Polish ambassador in London contacts the British Foreign Office pointing out that clause 1(b) of the agreement, which concerned an "aggression by a European power" on Poland, should apply to the Soviet invasion. The UK Foreign Secretary responds with hostility, stating that it was Britain's decision whether to declare war on the Soviet Union!

    The truth is, the Allies don't give a rat's ass about Poland. They only used its foolish ultra-nationalist leaders to instigate Hitler so that they could have their war. The horror that Poland will suffer under Soviet occupation is Poland's problem, not Britain's!

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    The Soviets executed 10,000 Polish Army officers at Katyn Forest. They would later try to blame it on the Germans.


    SEPTEMBER 17, 1939
    GERMANY HAS DEFEATED POLAND / DANZIG AND WESTERN PRUSSIA REUNITED WITH GERMANY


    Within a few weeks, the German-Polish War is already over. Hitler receives a hero’s welcome upon his arrival in liberated Danzig. Hitler addresses the Danzig crowd:

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    Hitler receives a hero's welsome in Danzig


    OCTOBER 1939 - MAY 1940
    HITLER PLEADS FOR PEACE WITH BRITAIN & FRANCE


    The German-Polish War has ended quickly. There is nothing that the Allies can do help their Polish puppet. The French actually invade Germany on September 7th, advancing 8 km before stopping. The quiet period between the end of the Polish war until May 1940, is dubbed by a US Senator as "The Phony War."

    During this time, Hitler pleads for the Allies to withdraw their war declarations. Towards France he declares: ."I have always expressed to France my desire to bury forever our ancient enmity and bring together these two nations, both of which have such glorious pasts."
    To the British, Hitler says: “I have devoted no less effort to the achievement of Anglo-German friendship. At no time and in no place have I ever acted contrary to British interests….Why should this war in the West be fought

    Hitler’s pleas for peace are ignored as the allies amass 600,000 troops in Northern France! Plans are openly discussed to advance eastward upon Germany, via Belgium and Holland, as well as establishing operations in neutral Norway and Denmark, with or without their consent.

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    As Hitler continues to plead for peace, the British government deploys its army and frightens its people.

    Excerpt from:

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    http://www.tomatobubble.com/worldwarii.html
     
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    The British guarantee to Poland was made in response to Nazi Germany's defiance of the Munich Agreement and occupation of Czechoslovakia. Chamberlain did it in a fit of fury after Hitler's betrayal and it was an ill-thought out move. According to the Polish-British Common Defence Pact, the United Kingdom should give Poland &#8220;all the support and assistance in its power&#8221; if Poland was "engaged in hostilities with a European Power" but the Pact wasn't applied to the Soviet invasion. Whatever the Soviets gained as a result was a reward for its participation in the war against Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan. The Soviets sacrificed millions of their soldiers for the purpose, which the US and Britain could not afford to pay in blood.
     
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    Maybe you should read the 3 posts again to find out it was Poland which was behaving badly against the Germans knowing they had the UK and France covering their backs. They were the ones who did not want to negotiate over the much troubled Danzig-corridor, which was formerly German territory what changed into Polish territory overnight due to the Treaty of Versailles, basically trapping German citizens in that area as gangs of Polish communists terrorised them there.

    The fact that war was only declared on Germany and not on the Soviet Union, which also invaded Poland, is a clear indicator of foul-play. Besides that, the Soviet-Union also invaded Finland, bombed Helsinki leaving scores of civilians dead, annexed Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia and parts of Eastern Romania. Again and again and again, the world remained silent in the face of Stalin&#8217;s aggressive conquests.

    Now one might wonder, how could that be? Why did the 'allies' give the Soviet Union a free-pass every time and did all the blame solely go to Germany?
     
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    M. S. King is a private investigative journalist and researcher based in New York. The author does not claim that his book is historically accurate and the Polish attack on Silesia prior to the German invasion is entirely fictional or a false flag operation. King offered a different tune that contradicts with the &#8220;official story&#8221;, which is entertaining to read for some readers, and his book is like science fiction. King is also author of "The War Against Putin: What the Government-Media Complex Isn't Telling You About Russia".

    [video=youtube;sQhLZO0fEb0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQhLZO0fEb0[/video]
     
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    The Gleiwitz "False Flag" Incident is Pure Fiction.

    And I see you have dodged my remarks for Stalin who came barging into Finland, bombed Sweden and annexed Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia and Rumania at the time? Don't you think it's very strange that war immediately was declared on Germany and not on the Soviet Union?
     
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    More terrible nonsense.
    Bloody Sunday? What a joke.
     
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    That's no joke.

    Lots of civilians got killed during the Bromberg Massace right after the invasion... look it up.
     
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    No need. I did so a long time ago.
    The entire incident was exaggerated and used to justify reprisals and in which far more people were murdered.
     

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