My fellow republicans. Please stop dismissing the seriousness of the Russian hacking!

Anna, I honestly don't know if we can trust the heads of our intelligence agencies. They are political appointees. This link is but just one example. There unfortunately has been a history of political appointees giving "cooked" intelligence to the public for the sole purpose of supporting a president's policy. There are many more besides this one....

http://dailysignal.com/2015/09/25/intelligence-centcom-altered/

Here's another one ....

http://www.nytimes.com/2003/03/23/w...feel-pressure-in-preparing-iraqi-reports.html

This is not new. So just because some source at the CIA says this or that, I'm afraid that it must be viewed with some skepticism unless irrefutable evidence is given.

Regardless of who hacked the DNC or why they did it, there are lessons to be learned from it for all sides. I'm a retired police officer. As we entered the digital age, and we started doing a lot of communicating by email, we learned something, and it was this.... That everything we wrote in an email was a public record, and we learned that deleting an email didn't actually delete it. It remained on the main server. The other thing we learned is that everything one does on a computer leaves a digital footprint. We used that fact and continue to use it to get evidence against all manner of criminals.

This is just a fact of life in the modern era.

So ......

If you don't want something you write in an email to end up as tomorrow's front page news, don't write it. And if you are a political committee, your greatest defense against embarrassing emails is two-fold ...

(1) Don't write them, and

(2) Run your campaign in a way that places ethics and high standards above all else.

If you do these two things, hacking just won't matter. Hell, let them hack away because it just won't matter. They will reveal nothing that embarrasses you.

Another thought that crosses my mind is this ...

No doubt, both the U.S. and Russia have been trying to manipulate elections in other countries to their advantage for many, many years. Revealing emails is just a new way of doing it. The method may be new, the fundamental mission and intent is not. I don't think our side is going to stop doing it, and neither will the Russians. If I were the head of a major political committee, I would put out some strict rules about email. If those rules were obeyed, we'd have no problem if our emails became public. If you didn't obey them, you're out. Problem solved.

 

It's not even about that. It is the willingness of so many to disregard scruples, to consume and repeat lies, and to blindly follow whichever rich guy is the most popular as long as it buttresses their particular worldview. One doesn't have to be a news junkie to have principles that transcend partisan politics.

Oh, what a glorious day that would be...not holding my breath, though.

It's a sad truth. Ultra-partisanship uber alles.

 

IF the Russians hacked, it was not as serious as when the Chinese hacked into the OPM. They got not only federal employee names and social security numbers, they also got names of family members, parents, grandparents, mother's maiden name, and every physical address ever lived in. They got the entire life history of every federal employee. I know - because I got the letter in 2015.

Hacking our government, our institutions, our businesses and our individuals is a huge crime that Obama did not take seriously. Neither did Hillary, or anyone who should have put a barrier between her and her private server. The problem has not been considered serious.

I don't believe the progs take it seriously now. It's just dog whistle politics meant to subvert and destabilize.

 

I agree, and that's one good reason for certain people (not you) to settle down about the issue. I think Putin and his administration will have tough but fair negotiations ahead with the next US administration if they really want to improve relations.

I'm certainly with you in thinking that Russia has no business interfering with our elections and that they need to face real consequences *IF* they have done so, and knowingly.

 

If their aim was to have Clinton when then they seemed to have no control. All they did was embarrass themselves.

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I don't know. Strange though.

 

We might. Clinton doesn't like Russia. If she were president this would be the excuse she needed to start trouble with Russia.

 

I think the entire story is bull(*)(*)(*)(*). Hillary lost the election because she was a terrible candidate that ran a horrible campaign. And now she wants to pretend that no, it wasn't her fault, the Rooskies! activated the coal miners with mind rays! Yeah, that's it! You don't know a single person that voted for Trump because of the Russians.

The Left doesn't like the outcome of the election, so now they are trying to steal the election from the voters. There is nothing else to this, and come Monday, this too will fail. First you blamed the Nazis, then the Deplorables and now you have settled on the Russians.

The problem was Hillary. Nothing else.

 

And to be honest it was Podesta's email and the DNC email hacked. Do these folks not understand cyber security? The democrats carry alot of the responsibility for this. They need to stop playing victim. Stupid Podesta fell for the old "change your password" phishing trick. This ia amateur stuff.

It is hard to feel sorry for stupidity.

 

If we can't, that's unfortunate. I hate having to research everything I hear from government. It'd be nice if they'd just be truthful.

Thank you for the links.

 

They got Trump nominated. Do you still remember that part or are you a Republican? And that wasn't a sweeping victory he had in the general. In fact, she had the votes, just in the wrong places.

It does look like they're not doing as well as they used to, which is good, but they still have more control than Russian hackers.

 

I'm surprised more people have not pointed out how his whole Russian hacking issue emphasizes how critical of a mistake it was for Hillary Clinton to use an unsecured private server.

Instead of just having her election emails, hackers could have (and maybe did have) access to her Secretary of State dealings and any classified information she talked about.

 

I like when people agree with me. It makes me feel warm inside, like hot chocolate on a cold winter's day.
P.S. I like the irony of the Clinton quote in your signature.

 

In case the "you" in your post means me.

No, first I blamed Clinton. Then next I blamed Clinton again. And finally, I blame Clinton.

I blame the Russians for the hacking, or more to the point, I'm trusting our officials when they blame the Russians. However I don't blame the hacking for Clinton's loss. For that I blame... guess... yep Clinton.

 

I know!
If I knew he was that easy to fool I would have broken into his email account!

 

The hypocrisy of the LWNJ's is astounding on this point. Just for a hypothetical posture, let's say Russia hacking the DNC and the Skankipotimus actually was true. (a stretch, but for illustrative purposes)
Is the left pissed off that Russia did it or that they did it to THEIR party? Exposing the scumbags and corruption within their own party's vermin workings..........or is this some faux attempt at Dimtard Nationalism? Which is it Dims? Fraud, deceit, corruption got exposed. Does it matter if it came from Russia? Even if that were the case?


lmao

 

The computers were not "hacked". https://www.google.ca/search?q=comu...0HLe_-AO9kpeoDQ#q=hacking+definition+computer

Obama and HRC knew months ago that the Russians, among others, were trying to get information from the computers., and well before the election ever began. Hillary even said so during the debates. Now they wake up after the election, understand they've lost, and decide to make a fuss. Of course that could have been there plan all along, as an insurance policy to discreit a negative outcome. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...rump-knew-Russian-hacking-says-Kellyanne.html

Action should have been taken when this was first discovered. Obama is still President and still responsible for national security. Although it certainly feels like Trump is the leader he isn't officially yet.

 

This is an excellent example of the truth really hurting but they have, like you say, no one to blame but themselves. And with the lies we see coming from the left it's seems they'll continue with the conspiracy of lies which brought them to this situation.

 

I'm guessing that's a theoretical question

In fairness, if it were the other way round we republicans would be just as pissed.

 

I know. I'm simply using the terminology associated with this issue.

Yep. The best action is they could have quit being scoundrels. That way if their emails were hacked there would have been no damaging information discovered.

 

I wouldn't say I'm a Republican per se. Sane people are leaving the Democrats and RINOs and are taking back their country. I'm more of a Libertarian but after vetting Gary Johnson I concluded he was neither Libertarian nor sane, he was a blathering village idiot. I will say it is easier pulling the lever for Republican candidates <Rule 2/3>

 

I doubt that.. If all of this was discovered about Donald Trump I think Republicans would be pleased they discovered the truth in time.

 

The Libertarians may have a positive effect on the Trump Administration. Many people of similar beliefs are calling for change and the Libertarians often have a good argument to make.

 

I too wanted to vote libertarian but I couldn't because of Gary Johnson. The libertarian party missed a great opportunity to make headway in this election. Gary Johnson has zero charisma. In fact he has negative charisma and seems to know less about world issues than I do.

 

I don't wish to detract from the topic but have you any evidence of the 'Russian hacking'?

 

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