My fellow republicans. Please stop dismissing the seriousness of the Russian hacking!

Radio Free Europe was designed to direct information to those people trapped behind the Iron Curtain. Now some on the left are claiming the Russians did the same thing for the American people.

No "American Institution" was attacked. John Podesta's emails were made public by someone though we don't yet know who. But in any case this information has proven to be very valuable to the American people, though less so to the swamp dwellers in DC.

 

I've no idea what you're talking about. McConnell was trying to push Russian fake news and didn't want Obama spoiling it? I think you're off the deep end on this one, but that seems more the rule than the exception from the left these past few weeks.

That wasn't even what I was referring to. I was talking about the media news narrative, not Obama being intimidated by McConnell.

 

Nowhere did I say that. If you are going to quote please do so correctly.

 

WHAT? Do you always talk out of both sides of your mouth? They are every bit as corrupt as the Democrats. However they are corrupt in different ways. That is a total crock of partisan crap and you are smart enough to know it.

As far as "only Republican operatives"....first...that hardly matters. "operatives" can be every bit as damaging if no more so. Second Lindsey Graham was hacked (and he appears pretty pissed and maybe scared). Graham is a bit more than an "operative"/

Mike your partisanship is getting pretty bad.

 

It's not unusual for Republicans to insist on a perfect candidate while Democrats are willing to support whichever candidate manages to get the support of the majority of delegates,

That infers that Trump is the "perfect candidate".

Or maybe you meant Romney? Or McCain?

Certainly not Cruz or any of the other clowns that piled out of the clown car this year

 

Republicans do insist on more if a litmus test than Democrats that is true. You can believe that Carter or Obama are not your choices for president that is your right. Yet that us your belief. You are also playing the partisan card and generalizing. Regarding a candidate getting the majority of candidates well that is the way
Our political primary system us set up to work. Trump won why? Do you think that he won because he was the perfect candidate. Don't make me laugh. He won for the same reason that Hillary won. He got more delegates than the other 17 or 18 candidates. Both parties operate under the same rules in that you win if you win the majority of the delegates not if you are a perfect candidate.

If you think that Trump is a perfect candidate I would question your standards of measurement.

 

You are really going off the deep end and are getting off track from this thread topic. To try to get you back on track let me say this:

* Saying that the GOP is just as corrupt as the Democrats doesn't make me a partisan hack. If anything, it should show the opposite. This demonstrates how far off the deep end you are going.

* I'm not downplaying the hack of Republican operatives. You were. You claimed that the GOP hacked data had not been released...

...and I notified you that they had, via DCLeaks. So please try to get back on topic.

 

It infers no such thing. You've missed the point. Many Republicans stayed home when McCain and Romney were the candidates because they weren't 'conservative enough'. Had they just voted for the Republican ticket Obama would never have won a second term which, on reflection, would have been a very good thing. Democrats, until this last election anyway, still supported Hillary Clinton despite her long history of lies and corruption.

 

I agree. As they say, we dodged a nuclear blast (bullet) when Clinton lost that election. If she had gotten the power of the White House, no telling how bad the next 4 years could have been. The laws she broke previously would be traffic tickets by comparison.

Steve

 

I think we should nuke Russia . . . China . . . Israel . . . somebody!

 

That was my point. Neither McCain or Romney passed this test. I used a poor example though of using Jimmy Carter. Many Democrats of the day, realizing he was not a very good President, did back away after his first term.

 

Your "point" was a bogus attack on Democrats that doesn't hold up under even the slightest scrutiny

 

And I "notified YOU" that no one knows if they have much more damaging material that so far has been unused.

If their preference was to aid Republicans in this election and then have "influence" over them in the future...they'd have no reason to dump everything they had.

In fact dumping some innocuous e-mails would give people like you cover to make the kinds of Russian defenses you have

 

many of your fellow republicans will continue to keep their eyes shut from reality, because, apparently, there is no such thing as "american" anymore, just republican or democrat. Watching this from another country, it is sad and pathetic. Partisanship is SOO crazy and polarised in your country that a large chunk of the people literally don't care about russian hackings, including the soon-to-be president! It's insane, it really is, but it a symptom of the rot and degeneracy of american society that has been going on for decades now. I honestly believe you are declining, that you are disintegrating as a country. There's a large part of your people now who live inside their own bubbles, who only listen to themselves, who demonise everyone else.. They only see the world in terms of liberal vs conservative. They try to fit everything into that dichotomy.. I have talked to several people on this board, about how Russia humiliated the USA, but their response is "no, they humiliated the liberals". See how crazy that is? Obama was the president of the USA, for christ sake, but he didn't represent america according to them, because there is no longer any thing called america, only liberals and conservatives. This division obviously transcends any national borders, hence why so many republicans literally side with russia over their own government.

 

You mean like the Democrats claiming doubting the election would be unAmerican before they lost?

 

Says the guy from Sweden where they've become the "rape capital of the world" after allowing muslim immigration in extremely high numbers.

http://dailycaller.com/2015/10/23/s...its-the-rape-capital-of-the-west-japan-didnt/

Steve

 

So you notified me of some wild speculation on your part? Consider me notified then.

Now you are just trying to make up a story line to fills in your preferred narrative. I'm trying to stick pretty closely to what we know. For you, this all about a primal scream about the election. Nothing else.

 

Proof or analysis?


Proof, a well-known group that declared war against us on behalf of Iraq:

August, 1996: "More than 600,000 Iraqi children have died due to lack of food and medicine and as a result of the unjustifiable aggression (sanction) imposed on Iraq and its nation. The children of Iraq are our children. You, the USA, together with the Saudi regime are responsible for the shedding of the blood of these innocent children. Due to all of that, what ever treaty you have with our country is now null and void.
The treaty of Hudaybiyyah was cancelled by the messenger of Allah (Allah's Blessings and Salutations may be on him) once Quraysh had assisted Bani Bakr against Khusa'ah, the allies of the prophet (Allah's Blessings and Salutations may be on him). The prophet (Allah's Blessings and Salutations may be on him) fought Quraysh and concurred Makka. He (Allah's Blessings and Salutations may be on him) considered the treaty with Bani Qainuqa' void because one of their Jews publicly hurt one Muslim woman, one single woman, at the market." (Declaration of War against the Americans Occupying the Land of the Two Holy Places.)

Analysis is stating this is the authorization for use of Jihad for 9/11 maneuvers:

July 1997, South Movement, "the path of Jihad and proper action": "Those who desire to face up to the Zionists conspiracies, intransigence, and aggressiveness must proceed towards the advance centers of capabilities in the greater Arab homeland and to the centers of the knowledge, honesty and sincerity with whole heartiness if the aim was to implement a serious plan to save others from their dilemma or to rely on those capable centers; well-known for their positions regarding the enemy, to gain precise concessions from it with justified maneuvers even if such centers including Baghdad not in agreement with those concerned, over the objectives and aims of the required maneuvers." (On the 29th anniversary of Iraq's national day (the 17th of July 1968 revolution). President Saddam Hussein made an important comprehensive and nation wide address) http://southmovement.alphalink.com.au/countries/Iraq/speech.htm

Proof, a well-known group that declared war against us on behalf of Iraq:

February 23, 1998: “Praise be to Allah, who revealed the Book, controls the clouds, defeats factionalism, and says in His Book: ‘But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the pagans wherever ye find them, seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war)’; and peace be upon our Prophet, Muhammad Bin-'Abdallah, who said: I have been sent with the sword between my hands to ensure that no one but Allah is worshipped, Allah who put my livelihood under the shadow of my spear and who inflicts humiliation and scorn on those who disobey my orders.”
One Iraq, Two Iraq, Three Iraq!

 

You are the perfect example of what he's talking about.

In truth there are Dems who would like to delegitimize Trump over this and that is also an example of what our friend above is talking about.

To them I (and pretty hard core Dem) say...get over it. Trump is our President for now. If Trump is shown to be DIRECTLY involved in this then that's another matter but for now he is the President

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That was about as lame an "attack the messenger" deal as any you;ve tried so far.

 

Russian hacking is not new. Neither is Chinese hacking, Korean hacking, German hacking. All nations do it.

But this "Russia hacked the election" is a total scam by the loser "progressives".

 

But you can't refute it, correct? Despite Trump not being a 'perfect candidate' he still defeated Hillary Clinton, just as a previously unknown Socialist from Vermont almost did in the primaries. That should have told the Hillary supporters that she was not the best candidate, even though they already knew of her checkered history. Still the Democrats soldiered on, trying to spin her lies, doctoring her history, trying to create something of her that clearly wasn't there. It just didn't work.

 

Read it and weep. Mr Swedish guy didn't refute it, did he. Glass houses, ya know.

http://dailycaller.com/2015/10/23/s...its-the-rape-capital-of-the-west-japan-didnt/

Steve

 

GREAT post, Swedish Guy.

Reminded me of another great Krug piece on The Times 'site this morning...

Did Republican politicians, so big on flag waving and impugning their rivals’ patriotism, reject this foreign aid to their cause? No, they didn’t. In fact, as far as I can tell, no major Republican figure was even willing to criticize Mr. Trump when he directly asked Russia to hack Mrs. Clinton.

This shouldn’t come as a surprise. It has long been obvious — except, apparently, to the news media — that the modern G.O.P. is a radical institution that is ready to violate democratic norms in the pursuit of power. ...


http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/16/opinion/useful-idiots-galore.html


Too bad so many right-wingers can't handle the TRUTH...

 

Those countries in Eastern Europe who turned Muslim refugees away are not experiencing the same problems Sweden now suffers. Why they decided to go multicultural and change the culture they had already created for themselves remains a mystery. Perhaps they thought Muslims would adapt to traditional Swedish values but now the reverse is proving to be true.

 

More specifically I blame her for being so secretive and security lax as to leave herself more vulnerable to the sort of hack that is being alleged. It was her Nixonian level of paranoia that ultimately sunk her.