S.10 - Anti-Semitism Awareness Act of 2016

Between 7 to 8 million Chinese civilians died due to the Japanese militairy purges, and an other 5 to 10 million Chinese civilians died due other war related issues like famines and diseases. And the nazi's deported 13 million Russian civilians as slaves to Germany and they ALL died, together with 3,6 million Russian POW's.

The hell it is.
The Chinese and Russians experienced it, and suffered a heck of a lot more.
But you know,.. who cares about those commies?
You don't. You're just totally ignorent about it eventhough it's right in your history books.

 

You might want to moderate yourself. There is an eerie sound to that. Naziesque if you like.
Also... What does anti-semitism laws have to do with Israel?

 

….
The hell it is.
The Chinese and Russians experienced it, and suffered a heck of a lot more.
But you know,.. who cares about those commies?
You don't. You're just totally ignorent about it even though it's right in your history books.[/QUOTE]

But none of the Chinese victims was collected, stored and then transported to “plants of death” to be gassed simply because Jews and other groups and not fitting to the Nazi ideology.
And I’m not ignorant … only not blinded to compare apples with apples!

 

Oh I replied to the previous statements, saying it's totally incorrect. It's used as an argument on this subject.


Also, that Naziesque: I agree.
But it's not my idea to call it Homeland of the Jews. That's the idea of Israel itself.
Hence I mock that Jew homeland. Something up with rephrasing this just ever so slightly?
Did it hurt a feeling?

 

Being killed is still being killed, Mandelus. And if you get killed on the spot or put on transport to get killed 1000's miles away. Being killed is still being killed. This is indeed comparing apples with apples. The only difference is that the Japanese left the corpses to rot in the streets. The Germans made it more hygienic. Big whoop. And as if the Russians weren't put on transport to Germany...... oh yeah you ignorant alright. Get real.

 

No - I disagree about the Holocaust's "uniqueness"; Not only it is false (as notme noted), but this exeptionalism exists solely to give a specific type of people priviledges over the others.

Plenty of people think you are living in a more and more totalitarian world. But your freedom of expression being what it is, you don't hear about it.

What I say is that these totalitarian laws makes people hate the Jews much move than the speech that has been "prevented" ever will - even if you won't hear about it. And then one day, bang! an atrocity, a hate crime or a terrorism attempt.

 

I doubt you find many others than Nazi's and people who really dislike Jews who call it the Jew homeland.
Homeland of the Jews does not sound Naziesque. The Jew homeland does.

Still has nothing to do with anti-semitism laws...
Hurt a feeling? Nah... Just that tingling I feel when Nazi's or Jew haters are around or I read their drivel.

 

Please do provide other examples of industrialised mass killing like the holocaust.

 

Examples of mass killing are sadly abundant
Rawanda, Cambodia, the Armenian genocide, Stalin and mao
But perhaps those are not industrialized enough for you?
How about the atomic bombings of Japan
Or the various incindiary air raids designed to create horrific fire storms
Or the thankfully limited use of poison gas or biological weapons

 

Indeed. As you pointed out yourself they weren't industrialised mass killings.
Genocide and mass killing has been a quite constant thing in human history... Want to try again?

 

Define "industrialized" ("killed inside a factory"?) and more importantly, explain why it should be a criterion for exceptionalism.

 

No... This is not something anyone could miss unless they do it wilfully.
Industrialised mass killing is a term specifically invented to explain the process the Nazi's used to register, deport, use and finally kill people on the scale they did. It is explained as such by historians because what the Germans did was unique.
You know... Instead of just killing them like people usually do.

Again... There are only two kinds of people who would ask these questions. Nazi's and their sympathisers.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...284a573f8_graphic.html?utm_term=.ead35129530b

 

As much as I dislike discussing such a heated issue like the so called Holocaust®, I dislike even more the slanderous propaganda promulgated by the Victors (who write the history) about the Germans "systematically exterminating 6 Million Jews".

No one I know doubts that countless individuals died in the German Internment Camps toward the end of WW 2, however the primary killer was typhus & the deprivation of sufficient food, medical supplies caused by multiple literal "holocausts" i.e. Allied bombing of all German civilian targets & the supply lines for the Internment Camps.
I don't doubt that there were individual Camp Commanders were cruel but according to many survivors, it was the Inmate Kapos who committed most of the deadly beatings etc

Firstly, such an enormous undertaking as "industrialised mass killings" would have required some sort of plan or blueprint like the Zionist Plan Dalet[1].
However, no plan exists in spite of the copious efforts of the corrupt, fraudulent, self serving & profit driven Holocaust Industry:

- “To the present day a written order by Hitler regarding the destruction of the European Jewish community has not been found, and, in all probability, this order was never given.”
- Walter Laqueur, Was niemand wissen wollte: Die Unterdruckung der Nachrichten uber Hitlers Endlösung (What Nobody Wanted to Know: The Suppression of News About Hitler’s “Final Solution&#8221, (Berlin-Vienna, 1981), p.190.============


- "What became known in high Nazi circles as the Fuehrer Order on the Final Solution apparently was never committed to paper -- at least no copy of it has yet been unearthed in the captured Nazi documents. " William Shirer, The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich (New York: Fawcett Crest, 1960), p.1256.


Secondly, intercepted German radio transmissions include absolutely no mention of " industrialised mass killings". To the contrary, they reveal that the Germans were trying to save lives not "massacre millions"[2] which would divert an enormous amount of resources, manpower etc from Germany's primary objective - winning a 3 Front War against vastly superior odds


Thirdly, in spite of innumerable myths about "gas chambers" of the roughly 1,000 autopsies done by Western Dr.s, not one death was attributed to "gassing".....Why?[3]


Finally, I realize that you are unlikely to be dissuaded from beliefs that you've formed via decades of fraudulent & self serving Zionist distortions and false claims made by the victorious Allies.
I only ask that you try to look at the enormity of Holocaust Industry claims objectively as the profit driven fraud[4] it is and consider the following facts:

EXCERPT " • Zyklon B is a buzz word for the claimed Nazi mass murder, but all non-anecdotal evidence proves that this chemical was merely used as a pesticide in order to improve the inmates’ health and reduce, not increase, camp mortality.
• Zyklon B applied in delousing chambers formed chemical compounds detectable to this day. No such compounds can be found, but ought to be expected, in the claimed homicidal gas chambers.
• The UK’s intelligence decrypts prove that the German camp authorities were desperately trying to save their inmates’ lives.
• “Six Million Jews threatened or killed”: read 167 quotes from newspapers with that “news” spanning from 1900 to 1945, with a peak after World War ONE! Yes, one, not two!
• Germany has paid compensation to millions of Nazi victims, and Israel has implicitly admitted that many million Jews survived the Holocaust.
• A British archaeological team looked for traces of the claimed 800,000 victims of the Treblinka camp—and came back empty-handed."CONTINUED [5]


While you may believe that individuals who reject outrageous Holocaust® myths as a hand full of "Jew Haters", nothing could be further from the truth.
According the the ADL, there are literally Billions of "Holocaust® deniers" in the world[6] who dismiss such outrageous claims as those promulgated by the innately fraudulent Holocaust Industry.

Please remember that perpetuators of "The Holocaust®" myths initially stooped to using fake "Human Skin Lampshades", fake "Human Fat soap", fake shrunken heads to shock the world into believing myths about the inherently "Evil Germans"
They have proven equally guilty of using fake / altered photos, "statistics" & documents in the subsequent decades [7]

It is not the so called "Holocaust deniers" who denigrate the memory of the millions who suffered during WW 2 but those who seek fame & fortune[8] for their own personal or political gain at the expense of the truth


Thanks



[1] "ISRAEL'S PLAN DALET"; THE GREEN LIGHT FOR ZIONISM'S ETHNIC CLEANSING OF PALESTINE"

http://www.globalresearch.ca/israels...estine/5326140
EXCERPT “On that day in 1948, two months before Israel’s unilateral declaration of independence in defiance of the will of the organized international community as it then was at the UN, Zionism’s in-Palestine political and military leaders met in Tel Aviv to formally adopt PLAN DALET, the blueprint with operational military orders for the ethnic cleansing of Palestine.”CONTINUED


[2] “THE HOLOCAUST NARRATIVE” by Nicholas Kollerstrom
https://www.scribd.com/document/282721687/Breaking-the-Spell-the-Holocaust-Myth-Reality

EXCERPT “In 1941, British Intelligence analysts cracked the German “Enigma” code. This undermined the German war effort—but also threw new light on day-by-day events in the Nazi concentration camp system. Between January 1942 and January 1943, encrypted radio communi-cations between those camps and the Berlin headquarters were intercepted and decrypted.

Oddly enough, historians have largely ignored the information furnished in these intercepts relating to “arrivals,” “departures,” recorded deaths and other events at these camps.The only reasonable explanation is that the intercepted data contra-dicts, even refutes, the orthodox “Holocaust” narrative.

The information does not expose a program of mass murder and racial genocide. Quite the opposite: it reveals that the Germans were determined, desperate even, to reduce the death rate in their work camps, which was caused by catastrophic typhus epidemics.”CONTINUED


[3] “Was there Really a Holocaust?”
http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/wasthere.htm

EXCERPT "Simon Weisenthal of the Los Angeles Holocaust Center states in the paper, "Books and Bookmen", April 1975, page 5, "No gassing took place in any camp on German soil."
The pressure had been growing since The Vatican, Red Cross, English Intelligence and German Intelligence chiefs Canaris and Oster (who collaborated with the British) either did not know or did not believe in rumors of gassings. 

This brings up the following questions:
• 1). Germans are meticulous record keepers but there is not one order for the construction of any gas chamber, no blueprint, no photo of any gas chamber or gassed victims.
• 2). There have been thousands of investigations of alleged Nazi war criminals, hundreds of trials, yet not one person was ever accused of being involved with actual gassings! No reliable witness on either side has ever come forward who saw a single person gassed—AND THERE ARE SUPPOSED TO HAVE BEEN OVER 10,000 MASS GASSINGS!
• 3). Photos of bodies at Dachau and Belsen camps are of prisoners who died of typhus and malnutrition. Many Germans also died from typhus.
• 4). The Vatican and Red Cross interviewed thousands of freed camp inmates at the end of the War about alleged gas chambers. The response was always the same, "The detainees themselves have not spoken of them" (Red Cross document No. 9925, June 1946)." CONTINUED



[4] “Allegations of Fake Holocaust Claims Just Keep Growing”
http://forward.com/articles/138473/allegations-of-fake-holocaust-claims-just-keep-gro/#ixzz3NUjH4LEg

EXCERPT “Although fewer than 20 people have been charged, the Claims Conference has identified about 4,800 claims it believes to be fraudulent. Bukh said he represented six people, including one “recruiter” and a handful of people who had not been arrested but who are co-operating with the FBI in the hope that they will not be charged. “We don’t anticipate any trials,” Bukh said.”CONTINUED


[5] "Breaking the Spell, The Holocaust: Myth & Reality" by Nicholas Kellerstrom --
https://www.amazon.com/Breaking-Spel...ll+kellerstrom



[6] ”THE WORLD IS FULL OF HOLOCAUST DENIERS”
http://www.theatlantic.com/internat...he-world-is-full-of-holocaust-deniers/370870/
EXCERPT " Only a third of the world's population believe the genocide has been accurately described in historical accounts. Some said they thought the number of people who died has been exaggerated; others said they believe it's a myth. Thirty percent of respondents said it's probably true that "Jews still talk too much about what happened to them in the Holocaust."
- Hindus were most likely to believe that the number of Holocaust deaths has been exaggerated. "CONTINUED


[7] “Simon Wiesenthal Center website uses newly altered 1944 Auschwitz photo!”
http://www.air-photo.com/english/1999_mark.html
EXCERPT “WW2 photos continue to be re-touched in attempts to support Holocaust 'eye-witness' stories:
1. In 1945 hundreds of civilian and camp photos were altered for the Nuremberg trials,
2. In 1978 Auschwitz air photos were marked for U.S. government publication, and
3. In 1999 the Auschwitz photo below was re-touched for a Holocaust promotion website."CONTINUED


[8] “HOLOCAUST PROFITEERS”
http://internationalresearchcenter....s-issues-war-of-cultures/holocaust-profiteers

 

So, it is worse than, say, a woman being raped and killed after having seen her husband be killed, for exemple? Don't you think people are tired of hearing you complain all the time?

Down to the ultimate argument yet?

 

HOW DARE YOU tell the truth

 

The atom bomb the fire bombings, and the use of gas and bio weapons are all highly industrialized mass killing

But in any case
What is the significant distinction that you are making?
And what is the implied point of making that distinction?

 

In essence, there is no difference at all. They both got this theme of a racially and religiously superiority of the Jews over their fellow Arab and muslim Israeli. And the one makes that sound more Naziesque. And that is indeed my point.

Dude. It aint me. The joke is on Israel. Cmon. They let in anybody that is a Jew. But the right to return may not be applied to the almost 800.000 Arabs they ethnic cleansed. That and their Jew colonies they build across their recognized borders,... that are the naziesque part of it all.

But go ahead, blame the messenger.

 

Cultural revolution etc. You really shouldn't submit any more posts.

 

Oh get real. The only thing what is done, is make the holocaust exceptionally for the entire "oh look at us poor Jews". Killing people is still killing people. If you record their names or not is rather totally irrelevant to rank how bad a genocide actually is. And on the scale of biggest mass killings/genocide,.. it just aint there on top of everything. It just aint. The Russians and Chinese had it far worse.

Do note. The US used or still uses gas chambers, and it's not considered a cruel way to die at all.

 

Except that the similarities between Nazi genocide and the Soviet and Chinese killings are only comparable in an extremely abstract way.
Only if you ignore the specific context of Nazism and reduce the entire history of the Nazi genocide to the category of 'mass murder', can you then compare it to other mass murders. But this is a false equivalence.

The context is so important. What separates the Nazi genocide from other mass murders is that it was the logical conclusion of fascist ideology, which was sustained by an anti-Semitic conspiracy theory. An attempt to 'purify' Germany of its 'intrusive' Jewish element. Remember that the first targets of police persecution in Germany were communists and the workers movement, which in Nazi ideology was linked with a Jewish global conspiracy. Why?
Because fascists are unable to correctly locate the source, the energy, the power of communism. So in order to make sense of things to themselves, they have to see communism as a parasitic foreign body that is destabilizing a nation, a nation that would otherwise be in harmonious balance, everyone knowing their place etc. Add this to the prevalence of anti-Semitic conspiracy theories (which have their origin in the backward (*)(*)(*)(*)hole that was 19th century Russia), and you get some idea of the logic of the Nazi genocide.

You can clearly see how the Soviet mass killings (not sure if you mean the starvation of the peasantry in the civil war, or Stalin's obliteration of the Kulaks as a class, or Stalin's Great Purge), have their basis on quite a different logic. There was no logic here of 'destruction of a foreign element that's destabilizing the nation (although there is similarity with the Kulak example I'll give you that).
Take the russian civil war for example. Workers did take grain from the peasants to feed the cities and allow themselves to win the civil war, and in the process allowed many peasants to starve. In what way can we compare that to the Nazi genocide in any meaningful sense? None, unless you abstract 'killing' to such a degree that it becomes practically meaningless, a worthless category.

But I know your crocodile tears for the Chinese peasantry a really a nice little front put up to conceal your obvious antisemitism. Do us all a favour and simply say you believe in the Rothschild baking conspiracy, alien pyramids and Hapsburg secret societies mate.

 

Your entire post rests on the false assumption that there really was a "Nazi genocide" as promulgated by the corrupt & profit driven Holocaust® Industry whose innumerable frauds have been exposed by Norman Finkelstein & many others.

Briefly put, the Germans had neither a Plan, the manpower, resources, or time to carry out the systematic extermination of 6 Million people AND fight a 3 Front War.

Additionally:

EXCERPT:
"1) There are NO autopsy reports of any Nazi gassing victims from any western doctors.

2) There are NO photographs that are even alleged to be of corpses of Nazi gassing victims from any German concentration camps.

3) There are NO German documents to identify any gassing victims. For those who think otherwise, let the USHMM, or the ADL, or anyone else provide such a document.

4) “Although survivors recalled that smoke and flame emanated continually from the crematoria chimneys and was visible for miles, the photography we examined gave no positive proof of this.“

5) There are NO German documents that speak of gassing. For those who think otherwise, let the USHMM, or the ADL, or anyone else provide such a document.

6) Some of Wiesel's exact words in Night, paperback edition (Bantam Books, 1960) page 78 are:
“The choice was in our hands. For once we could decide our fate for ourselves. We could both stay in the hospital, where I could, thanks to my doctor, get him [the father] entered as a patient or nurse. Or else we could follow the others. ‘Well, what shall we do, father?’ He was silent. ‘Let's be evacuated with the others,’ I told him.”

7) Rudolf Hoess, former commandant of Auschwitz, who appeared as a "witness" at Nuremberg was definitely "tortured" and his Jewish torturer Bernard Clarke even admitted it later in the book LEGIONS OF DEATH by Rupert Butler, pages 236-38.

9) 9) The numbers of “holocaust survivors” are enormous—even today. The numbers are well into the hundreds of thousands even sixty years after the war. In 2003 an Israeli demographer, Sergio Della Pergola, stated in an official Israeli report that there were 1.092,000 Jewish holocaust survivors alive in the world in 2003.
The so-called "survivors"--and there were 1,092,000 of them still alive in 2003 according to Dr. Sergio DellaPergola-

There are NO autopsy reports of Nazi gassing victims. There are NO autopsy reports that show even one body found anywhere was of someone killed with poison gas by the Nazis or Germans.

Many thousands of bodies were found in German concentration camps by the end of the war, (they clearly had NOT all gone up in smoke at all) and at least a thousand were autopsied—but, none of the autopsies indicated poisoning by any substance.

This simple fact should already undermine anyone's belief that the “holocaust” story is supported by “overwhelming evidence.”
CONTINUED[1]


Please see my earlier Post #38 to which I'd like to add the following, honest eyewitness account that is consistent with other experiences I heard while living in Germany & other parts of Europe:



To: The MEDIA

Re: CONCENTRATION CAMP SURVIVORS
Dear Sir / Madam,
My name is Alexander McClelland I am an Australian veteran of WWII, a TPI
(Totally and Permanently Incapacitated) and a survivor of a Concentration
Camp.

Aged 19 I volunteered for the AIF and fought as a Bren Gunner in 2/1
Infantry Btn in North Africa, Greece and Crete where I was wounded and
captured by German forces. I spent the rest of the war as a POW but due
to my many escape attempts I was finally put into the TEREZIN
Concentration Camp close to the Theresienstadt Ghetto in Czechoslovakia.

I have recorded my experiences in an autobiographical book entitled :
'The Answer- Justice.' In 1965 I was featured in an award winning but 
historically inaccurate Australian television documentary on
Theresienstadt called "Where Death Wears A Smile."

I don't receive my TPI Pension because of the heavy wounds I received in
the battle action on Crete. I get my TPI Pension because of the inhumane 
treatment I received in the Concentration Camp.

It is a mistake to
believe that the Germans had enough spare manpower to staff and run the
concentration camps. The Germans only guarded the outer perimeter of the 
camps, we Prisoners hardly saw German soldiers, so it was not the SS or
German guards that beat me up daily.

No, the daily beatings that left me totally incapacitated, came from two 
fellow Prisoners called KAPOS.

Kapos (or Camp Police) had extra privileges, such as their own room and
they also had power, For example the Power to say who got to visit the 
Camp Sick Bay or the Camp Brothel, and - because of the absence of the
very disciplined Germans - these Kapos even had the Power over Life &
Death.

The two Kapos that beat me daily, using a heavy wooden baton they called 
'Herr Doktor' (The Doctor) were both fellow Prisoners, both were Jewish, 
one from Hungary and the other was, I believe, a Ukrainian. I was often a 
witness when they dragged other hapless prisoners from their cells onto
the 'Appelplatz' and beat them to death with 'The Doctor'.

So whenever I meet a ' Camp survivor' now, I look him deeply in the eyes 
to see what sort of a 'survivor' they are; were they really a Prisoner 
just like me, or whether they were one of the many 'Privileged' ones who 
survived the war being more inhumane to other Prisoners than the Germans 
ever were.

As a matter of fact, it was a German SS Soldier who saved my life after 
the Kapos, who after beating me sent me outside the camp on a work
 detail, with a dangerously poisoned leg. The SS Soldier walking by saw my 
mates helping me, came over and then gave me his medical kit.

I now look deeply into the eyes of the 'survivors,' because I know that
 not all Concentration Camp survivors were innocent victims. I know that a
lot of the Prisoners were brutal and inhumane criminals. The world has
 never been told the whole truth about what life in the Camps was like.

All we ever hear or read in the media is, how bad the German guards were
 and how badly they treated their Prisoners.

I was in more than 8 POW Camps and a Concentration Camp, so who would 
know the truth? Me or the Media!

Sincerely,

Alexander McClelland

PO Box 887 Toronto NSW 2283

Australia

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Please note that there is nothing "anti Semitic" about rejecting specious Allied propaganda & Holocaust® Industry fraudulence.

[1] “NAZI GASSINGS NEVER HAPPENED”
http://www.nazigassings.com/

 

There's a tragic story behind every death. To pretend otherwise is to show a terrifying lack of empathy.

Are you over trying to shut out our few remaining liberties yet?

 

You should better switch on your brain before posting anything ... and before insulting me this way too!

Yes ... millions died in China out of it, but did Mao collect them all to transport into camps for being gassed like in a production line?
Nazi terror and Holocaust are unique in history and if you don't get into your head, you better shouldn't admit any more posts!

 

Not really if you take a closer look on the circumstances and reasons. But if you are ignorant to see the difference, I'm not your teacher that you learn them here...
And hey ... maybe putting then the genocide on Natives in the USA on the list too?

 

Being killed is still being killed. And it was all part of a genocide.
It's not abstract at all.

That's not what I mentioned. I specifically mentioned the amount of Russians being deported to Nazi Germany where they died as slaves.

7 to 8 million Chinese civilians died by the hand of Japanese soldiers, an other 5 to 10 million Chinese died due to war related issues.
And to name this, is "obvious antisemitism" because it shows the massacre on the Jews weren't the biggest victims?

The hell it is!


This is just the crued reality. The genocide on the Jews is simply not the biggest genocide. There are others who are bigger. It's an undisputable fact! And you're just cussing racist slurs to the messenger. How about you just run along with your personal attacks, since you lost the conversation, and let the grown ups talk here?