Petition to ban Trump from meeting the queen gathers a million signatures

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  1. snakestretcher

    snakestretcher Banned

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    Did I say anything about supporting the Royals? Nope, that would be your imagination as well. And where exactly are we divided 'along religious lines'?
     
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    Add complete ignorance of the principle of the separation of powers
     
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    snakestretcher Banned

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    It works both ways; launch an attack on Russia or China and what do you think might happen to America in return? You got it; 'nothing left but ashes and a hole'.
     
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    You're kidding, right? I guess you forgot that Great Britain is a also a nuclear power and we don't only trade with you either. Americans have this awesome sense of self-importance.
     
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    None of the "defaulters" are not spending money on defense. All that they are doing is spending less than 2% of their GDP. That is not exploitation since you would have to prove that they are benefiting somehow. So explain how Portugal is exploiting the US by allowing them to use the Lajes air base.
     
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    You might not have noticed but conservatives are also appalled by Trump-even those within his own cabinet.
     
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    Don't believe most of what you read...
     
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    Your country was born from immigration. That's what the 'little fishes' have done. No little fishes, no America.
     
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    I don't know how it all works other than the obligation to pay the 2% you mention, and that many of them haven't been paying it for many years nor are they showing any intention of doing so. Well the Donald will soon sort them out, or I'm a Dutchman.
     
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    Right, so what you are saying is that you would prefer they shut up?
     
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    They come out of the woodwork when they're being paid. They are just tools for the elite like Soros and they don't even realize it. Poor slobs------it's the only "job" they have....
     
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    Yes, but they just expect the US to carry the load. Sorry, what's fair is fair. We carry the load for them with NATO. We carry the load for them with the UN. Moochers never stop...
     
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    You could be right - pay a few rabble-rousers and let the herd instinct do the rest.
     
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    Which nations have not been paying any NATO dues at all?

    Explain exactly how Trump is going to force those NATO nations to spend more on defense? Will it be the same way he is going to force Mexico to pay for his idiotic wall?
     
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    Obviously. Trump is president.
     
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    I wish you would! [​IMG] Or answer my bloody question - I don't mind which.
     
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    Which bloody question was that?
     
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    Explain exactly what load would that be? The US only carries 22% of the cost of NATO which means that all of the other nations carry 78% of the load.
     
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    I didn't claim any of them were not paying anything at all, just less than the 2%, and you can find out which ones by a simple Google search.

    Presumably if they won't they'll be kicked out of NATO.

    In the context that's a non sequitur so I don't intend to address it.
     
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    This one:

    This frenzy of neuroses by the usual suspects is really revealing; I mean it isn't as if DT is rounding up every Muslim who's already living in the US into bloody deportation camps is it! The basic fact of the matter is that Muslims adhere to the Islamic faith, and therein lies the problem, because Islam has a bad PR reputation. Now that isn't the fault of ordinary Muslims, but then neither is it the fault of the rest of us - neither camp wants extreme Islam, and neither camp wants Sharia law. As I see it DT is simply fulfilling what he said he'd do - he's finding out 'what the hell is going on' before allowing any more Islamists in. This is what the leaders of all countries should have done and should be doing; I don't know whether you Trump-haters have noticed it or not but Sweden has serious social problems, and any leader worth their salt would effing well make sure their own country doesn't get them too and that's all DT is doing. I'm extremely disappointed that PM May has seen fit to side with the siren voices, and I predict US-UK relations will suffer because of it. I'll go further and say that anyone who doesn't acknowledge the radical Islam agenda, and that it will bring about urban warfare, either has zero perception, is a simpleton, or a charlatan . . . or a liberal!

    Actually it isn't a question per se, but more to do with the temporary immigration restrictions, but perhaps you'd like to comment on that particular aspect of it?
     
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    Explain how Trump is going to kick Germany out of NATO.
     
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    I dare say that if any of them don't cough up then he'll seek a mandate to exclude them from the 'One for all and all for one' rationale? I don't know all the (*)(*)(*)(*)ing answers.
     
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    Trump has not told to send anyone of them to Guantanamo or so of course ... but he started and touched now something which should not be touched this way by a generalized suspicion of Muslims if coming from one of these 7 countries to be potential terrorist. This is against anything of values for what the US is standing for in the world and against the constitution itself at least.

    Anyway ... as I still wrote is this list ridiculous in practice and worthless to prevent anything what is told the measure should prevent.
    You have only too look from which countries all latest terrorists of last attacks in USA and Europe, as well the leading terrorists are coming from and you will see that non of them is of one of these 7 countries!
     

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