Breaking: Appeals court upholds ruling blocking Trump's immigration order

Where exactly do you get your information? Infowars? World Nut Daily.

Obama didn't ban all travel from Cuba. He ended the program that gave that automatically gave them permanent residency and green cards after living in the U.S. for a year and a day.

 

You just posted the equivalent of "no strawman, no strawman, you're the strawman!"



So now the question is: should Donald Trump get a mental checkup or is it his loyal followers who actually need to be checked?

 

So if isis is celebrating and the lefties here are celebrating , I ask, what is wrong with that picture?

 

This is literally a direct quote from the Ninth Circuit's decision (which you still haven't read): "[T]he Government asserts that, "nlike the the President, courts do not have access to classified information about the threat posed by terrorist organizations operating in particular nations, the efforts of those nations to infiltrate the United States, or gaps in the vetting process." But the Government may provide a court with classified information. Courts regularly receive classified information under seal and maintain its confidentiality. Regulations and rules have long been in place for that. 28 CFR § 17.17(c) (describing Department of Justice procedures to protect classified materials in civil cases);..."

The Constitution restricts the powers of the government, period, and the effects of this EO were not limited to foreigners in a foreign country. That's the whole point of the states' argument (which you clearly have not bothered to research).

Fifth Amendment - you need to read it and all the case law that goes along with it (but I assume you'll choose to continue speaking from ignorance instead).

Negative, the policy could have been implemented successfully and legally if there weren't such a clown car of ass-hats cobbling it together. This is what we get when America elects an inexperienced, self-aggrandizing blowhard into office: chaos and failure on an epic scale. Everyone should be calling their Congressman demanding impeachment so we can get someone with half a brain in charge.

 

No they are not. Once they are in they are free to do as they like with no check on them. That is not what the constitution intended . In fact Judicial review is not in the constitution . SCOTUS declared it for itself in Marbury vs Madison

http://landmarkcases.org/en/Page/284/Thomas_Jeffersons_Reaction

Jefferson was correct

 

I think 8 years is more than long enough to conclude the current process was working. Now go back to your bomb shelter and continue cowering.

 

But there have been attacks under Obama from these nations. The judge who claimed otherwise was wrong

 

What's the point of this EO? Status quo seemed to be working just fine! It seems that this, like the wall, is being pushed for for no other reason than to stoke trumps ego. I'm completely at a loss as to why this EO was so important right now. We had the previous admins vetting policies for 8 years and not a single attack from people of the country that the EO is targeting.

 

So you agree with the court that terrorists have an inalienable right to enter the country? Liberal logic 101.

 

The picture shows lefties placing the welfare of ISIS terrorists above the security of US citizens. But you know that.

 

Again there have been recent attacks by people from these countries here, maybe you are fine with that . I am not

 

You are right - the ban is temporary until more serious vetting can be put in place. And the suspension by the courts is of that ban only - not the more serious vetting that is yet to come. So your conclusion is simply wrong. The court's suspension of Trump's ban will not affect people with Venezuelan passports.

I am not downplaying anything. I am just pointing out that you were wrong.

If you want to maintain your original position:
"Oh.....uhoo 9th Circuit Court Judges. Guess what happens to your asses, if any of these people get into the US and commits an act of terrorism. That's Right.....no more cushy lifetime job. Plus unlimited humiliation for the rest of your miserable existence. Good Times."
demonstrate that I am wrong when I say that the ban did not affect people with Venezuelan passports, so the suspension of the ban will not affect people with Venezuelan passports.

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Is that what the court said? Could you provide a quote to that effect, please?

 

Also the inability to link actual terrorist events in Europe with ISIS planned terrorists events in the US perpetrated by immigrants/refugees. But that is Liberal "logic".

 

Can you provide examples, please, with links to original sources?

 

The ban issue is actually somewhat moot because the extreme vetting can (and has) begin immediately. Sec Homeland Security Ret Gen Kelley and SecState Tillerson are in control of that.

 

How 'bout some links? I don't recall hearing about them. Oh wait, are you referring the the bowling green massacre? Or the scores of terrorists attacks going unreported?

 

The Ohio State attacker was from Somalia.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/a-fact-free-debate-on-immigration-order/article/2614298

 

I don't think that matters. The President is given this express authority to stop immigration if HE DEEMS FIT to do so.

I'm still waiting on case law from others that shows Trump can't ban travel. Do you have any, perhaps?

 

http://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/nation-politics/ap-fact-check-no-arrests-from-7-nations-in-travel-ban-nope/
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/iraqi-refugee-living-in-houston-pleads-guilty-to-trying-to-help-isis/
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/11/28/developing-active-shooter-alert-at-ohio-state.html

 

2011 Obama banned immigration from Iraq for 6 months. This ban includes additional countries identified by Obama as sources f terror. So this is merely an tension of what Obama did in 2011.

 

I bet if Obama had given the same exact EO the liberals and these judges would have no problem with it

 

Specious and irrelevent to the issue before the court.

 

The 9th ruling is that citizens of foreign countries have a right of entry and if refused the right to due process.

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2017/02/09/ninth-circuit-gets-it-wrong.html

 

That's a long time to stand on the beach with one foot wet and one foot dry. Cuban "Wee Willie Winkie"?

"The wet feet, dry feet policy or wet foot, dry foot policy is the name given to a consequence of the 1995 revision of the application of the Cuban Adjustment Act of 1966 that essentially says that anyone who fled Cuba and entered the United States would be allowed to pursue residency a year later. Prior to 1995, the US government allowed all Cubans who reached US territorial waters to remain in the US. After talks with the Cuban government, the Clinton administration came to an agreement with Cuba that it would stop admitting people intercepted in U.S. waters. Since then, in what has become known as the "Wet foot, Dry foot" policy, a Cuban caught on the waters between the two nations (with "wet feet") would summarily be sent home or to a third country. One who makes it to shore ("dry feet") gets a chance to remain in the United States, and later would qualify for expedited "legal permanent resident" status in accordance with the 1966 Act and eventually U.S. citizenship. In January 2017, the Obama administration announced the immediate end of the policy."

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wet_feet,_dry_feet_policy

Cheers

 

Somalia=Ohio State https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Ohio_State_University_attack or we could close the barn door after the horse gets out.
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/al-qa...terrorists-country-refugees/story?id=20931131