Would you have used the atom bomb on Japan in WWII if you were Prez?

That was one of acts of State Terrorism by USA. US bombings cost the lives of 500,000 civilians in Japan, 1945, about a million civilians in North Korea in 1950 -- '53, and about a million civilians in Southeast Asia in 1965-'73.

 

Definitely -- US conduct in Japan 1945, Korean War and Vietnam War was State Terrorism.

 

Definitely -- USA had many more then just two bombs. Thus, a few warning bombs should have been exploded at sea .

 

There was "zero chance" that the Soviet Union could stake a claim to all of Eastern Europe and half of Germany, too... right?! Better re-read the history that occurred from 1945 through 1991.

. Hint: Who do you think these people were?

 

No there was a great chance they could invade Eastern Europe. That was easy. A naval invasion of Japan was impossible for them

 

Read cupAsoup's post about using the Russian port of Vladivostok for troop deployment. He's right! Besides, for all the reasons I've already mentioned, we would have been bound by the ethics of our alliance with the Soviet Union to accommodate their inclusion in carving up the pie that was the defeated Japan. Soup and I rarely agree on much of anything, but he's absolutely right about this.

Truman was wise to short-circuit that whole thing with the Soviet Union, AND, to avoid having so many needless American and Japanese casualties that would have been involved in a land invasion. The only alternative I can see to both the atomic bombs and a land invasion would have been a continued highly destructive conventional bombing of Japan with B-29's. But, even that would have taken quite a few more months. How many more? We'll never know. Truman made the right call....

 

Read my post. What ships were they going to use for an invasion? This is laughable. Lol

 

Yup, and I think one is enough,
too expensive for a warning shot.

 

That is 100% false.

Why do most of the anti-bomb people so intensely hate the Chinese civilians that they have the view that Japanese killing Chinese, or ally, was totally acceptable and instead sacrifice anyone to not harm the Japanese, our enemy? What is your reason?

 

Most anti-guns opinions are rooted in fundamental hatred of the USA and the USA's history as their messages demonstrate they will make up any false facts and absurd logic to condemn the USA, President Truman and the American military as mass murdering homocidal maniacs. Here are examples:

1. Tell a lie, repeat it enough times, and therefore it must be true. Such a claiming we had many atom bombs. No, that's false, a lie, a made up fact to support condemnation of the USA. We had TWO. That's all. TWO. We could have had a 3rd made and delivered in a few weeks - if a Japanese submarine didn't sink the ship carrying it for delivery as had happened to the ship that delivered the first bomb.

2. Make up the most absurd logic possible. For example, to claim we should have dropped the first one or both in the ocean as a demonstration. How fully ludicrous can it get? We dropped the first atom bomb on a Japanese war industry city. Did Japan surrender? No. BUT, in their logicl it would HAVE been persuasive to drop the atom bomb on the ocean than on a Japanese city because why? Japanese were terrified of us killing fish more than killing them?

3. To deny what actually happened. The Emperor said EXACTLY why he surrendered. He gave ONE reason. He believed we were going to totally exterminate the Japanese to" extinction," (his exact word) where before he and the military would convinced we would not have been willing to killing millions of Japanese. Do something so absurd as to stop the bomb to NOT harm the Japanese would prove that in fact we were not willing to mass kill the Japanese.

4. NEVER rely on most these pacifists against the Japanese in WWII as a friend or ally. China was our ally. The Japanese were slaughtering Chinese civilians by the MILLIONS. Russia was invading China too to bring as much of China and the Chinese under control of the mass murderer Stalin as possible. Not ONE of these "don't harm the Japanese" has shown the slightest concern to our ally, the Chinese.

5. On this tread also show ZERO concern for American and allies loves. Japanese submarines were still sinking American ships. Even the ship that carried the first atom bomb was sunk, with over 800 killed as just one example. Japanese Kamikazis were still killing Americans. They truly do not care that Americans were dying, not indicating any concern whatsoever.

6. At least by the messages it would be fair to conclude none ever flew one of the black and white POW flags since not one has shown the slightest concern for the torture, abuse and murdering of Allied POWs, let alone Chinese POWs. Of over 1,000,000 Chinese POWs, all but 56 were murdered. The Japanese also had 130,000 American and other Allies prisons - ALL who were being abused and they were being murdered routinely by the hundreds and thousands.

In short, making up ANY false claims, any absurd logic and demonstrating 100% indifference to human lives in their messages - except Japanese lives and not even Japanese lives if they would die by any means other than an atomic bomb - all are at the core of the claim that the USA committed mass murder when it bombed two Japanese military industry cities with atom bombs.

 

MacArthur wanted to drop an atomic bomb on Tokyo. Later on China. However, he is cited as one of the experts who opposed dropping the atom bombs.

 

He did NOT want to drop one on Japan which is the point of this thread

 

Read about the Rape on Naking. China was an ally. Read of how Japan treated civilian cities, by air and land.

 

When did I say that Japan were the good guys? We shouldn't have dropped the bomb because we were SUPPOSSED to be the good guys

 

The Japanese High Command in April 1945 issued its planned defense of the main islands, designated “Ketsu Operation.” The Homeland defenses consisted of “30 line-combat divisions, 24 coastal-combat divisions, and 23 independent mixed brigades, 2 armored divisions, 7 tank brigades, and 3 infantry brigades.” In addition, 8,000 “suicide or special- attack planes” and special attack boats and midget submarines were produced.

Doesn't sound like preparation for surrender, does it?

 

Don't be a child. You prepare for war right up until the end. Don't be silly. LOL

 

And that is your reason Americans, Chinese and our other Allies should have continued to die when it could be stopped - because "good guys" will get themselves killed before harming the enemy?

What does good-guys/ bad guys even have to do with it to begin with? We were not in WWII to prove we were good guys. Where did you even get that idea? How many of us good guys do you say had to continue to die to prove we are "good?"

 

This is the argument for dropping the bomb in every war that has existed since then. Yet it has never been done. THINK!

 

And then the Soviets declared war, and the Japanese west flank was exposed with imminent invasion and sadly inadequate defense. Meanwhile, America destroys the 67th and 68th Japanese city with new bombs but no unusual level of destruction compared to the previous 66 bombing raids. Gee, I wonder why they really surrendered.

 

If Japan no longer poised any threat to Americans, then how as the USS Annapolis that had delivered the first atom bomb to Japan sunk by a Japanese submarine with over 800 Americans killed? Aren't all the anti-bomb, anti-Americans crowd claiming Japan was trapped on the Japanese mainland?

 

A clue is THE REASON the Japanese Emperor gave when he surrendered: That the "cruel" atom bombs were going to cause the "extinction of the human race," ie the Japanese. There is no "they" surrendered. Specifically the Emperor surrendered. He specifically surrendered because of the two atom bombs dropped.

 

Grasp at straws. The war was OVER

 

Is there nothing totally false you will not post? What is the point of your doing so? If you have no response, why not just ignore it then? Obviously the war was not over. Just from that one Japanese attack over 800 Americans were killed.

 

You can not deny that every military expert of the day thinks you are flat out wrong. LOL

 

Every military expert of the day never knew I exist and they are all dead, no longer thinking anything.