Is Christianity really as violent as Islam?

???? You've established no such thing. "fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you" doesn't mean only those in Mecca. And within 80 years of Muhammads death they were taking the fight to unbelievers in Spain to the west and Afghanistan to the East. Most Muslims didn't follow your method of tortured and twisted interpretation of doctrine to get the answer you want.

 

Here's the thing, rape of woman is totally ok in those regions, it wasn't the rape that got him executed, its the fact that it was a same sex rape

 

Yep!

Their fascination was arisen after the defenders of democracy and the
defenders of other such false ideologies (who have no religion) defended democracy simply for the sake of it, and they mixed the falsehood with the Truth.
..... They distort the Truth with Falsehood, and mix the Light with the Darkness, and the Polytheism of democracy with the Monotheism of Islam. But we, with the help of Allah, replied to all of these fallacies, and showed that democracy is a religion. But it is not Allah’s religion. It is not the religion of monotheism, and its parliamentary councils are just places of polytheism, and safe havens for paganistic beliefs. All of these must be avoided to achieve monotheism, which is Allah’s right upon His servants. We must destroy those who follow democracy, and we must take their followers as enemies - hate them and wage a great Jihad against them.
Abu Muhammad 'Aasim al-Maqdisi


"Islam is not merely a belief, so that it is enough merely to preach it. Islam, which is a way of life, takes practical steps to organize a movement for freeing man. Other societies do not give it any opportunity to organize its followers according to its own method, and hence it is the duty of Islam to annihilate all such systems, as they are obstacles in the way of universal freedom. ...
This religion is really a universal declaration of the freedom of man from servitude to other men and from servitude to his own desires, which is also a form of human servitude; it is a declaration that sovereignty belongs to God alone and that He is the Lord of all the worlds. It means a challenge to all kinds and forms of systems which are based on the concept of the sovereignty of man; in other words, where man has usurped the Divine attribute." Qutb

Sayyid Qutb

 

Christianity never directly declared war to profit or to benefit through the annexation of land, resources or wealth. This is more about sleeping under a blanket of freedom each night for the next few hundred years. So I say bring it as well. I think I formulate a solution to ensure the minimisation of the loss of life. It would be a 10 year contract for me. After 10 years on a salary of $150000 (I was on around $110000 at 24) a year and once I have ensured the security of the Western world, I wish to be released with 5 acres of waterfront land on a pacific island of my choice with no strings attached.

 

Christians acting in contradiction of Christian doctrine.

"There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus"

 

I still don't understand what Christians persecuting non-Christians centuries ago has to do with Muslims decapitating infidels and posting videos of it on the internet today.

 

????? That's exactly what it calls for them to do

[9.5] So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them; surely Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.

[9.29] Fight those who do not believe in Allah, nor in the latter day, nor do they prohibit what Allah and His Apostle have prohibited, nor follow the religion of truth, out of those who have been given the Book, until they pay the tax in acknowledgment of superiority and they are in a state of subjection.

Your not going to collect the tax and put them in a state of subjection to their Muslim masters without first conquering them. AND the actions of the first four Caliphs that Muslims today view as "Rightly Guided" certainly demonstrate they had a similar literal interpretation as within 80 years of Muhammads death they were waging violent jihad in Spain to the west and Afghanistan to the east.

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[9.5] So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them; surely Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.

Literally, convert or die!

Notice how you tell us what the Koran says while I quote what the Quran says. Quote Muslims interpretations of the Quran

Dr. al-Buti “The Jurisprudence of Muhammad’s Biography”

(p. 287) "It may be said, 'What is the value of a faith in Islam which is a result of a threat? Abu Sufyan, one moment ago, was not a believer, then he believed after he was threatened by death.' We say to those who question: 'What is required of an infidel or the one who confuses other gods with God, is to have his tongue surrender to the religion of God and to subdue himself to the prophethood of Muhammad. But his heart felt faith is not required at the beginning. It will come later."

 

I don't know that. Many European countries have established religion yet they are not like the islam I detest.

I am still wondering why you don't detest Islam.

 

Then so is Islam, yet the left defends it.

 

The text of the Quran, Hadiths and Bible are the same as they've always been. The protestant reformation was the beginning of returning the religion of Christianity to the doctrine of the bible and AWAY from the inventions of the Catholic church. Christian doctrine of the bible didn't make the Pope infallible, that was purely an invention of Catholic doctrine along with all the inventions of the infallible Pope that became Christian doctrine of the time.

AND we are witnessing today the Islamic reformation, returning Islam to the doctrine of the Quran and Hadiths that commands the believers to "fight", "kill", "slay" and "smite the necks" of the unbelievers "until... religion is only for Allah". To re establish the Islamic Caliphates that existed from Muhammads death in 632 until the 1920s, applying Islamic Doctrine as the law of the land. Particularly this current Sunni, Salfist movement that looks to the first four Rightly Guided Caliphs they believe are to be emulated.

 

Christian doctrine of the bible doesn't concern itself with governance.
"My Kingdom is not of this world", "Render unto Caesar, that which is Caesars", "Obey all authorities instituted among men" and all of that. Thomas Paine in his Pamphlet "Common Sense" used the doctrine of the bible to demonstrate the illegitimacy of the divine rule of Monarchs and demonstrate the legitimacy of government, of, by and for the people.
Just as ISIS, AlQaeda and the likes use the doctrine of the Quran and Hadiths to demonstrate the illegitimacy of any governance other than the divine rule of the Islamic caliphate.

Their fascination was arisen after the defenders of democracy and the
defenders of other such false ideologies (who have no religion) defended democracy simply for the sake of it, and they mixed the falsehood with the Truth.
..... They distort the Truth with Falsehood, and mix the Light with the Darkness, and the Polytheism of democracy with the Monotheism of Islam. But we, with the help of Allah, replied to all of these fallacies, and showed that democracy is a religion. But it is not Allah’s religion. It is not the religion of monotheism, and its parliamentary councils are just places of polytheism, and safe havens for paganistic beliefs. All of these must be avoided to achieve monotheism, which is Allah’s right upon His servants. We must destroy those who follow democracy, and we must take their followers as enemies - hate them and wage a great Jihad against them.
Abu Muhammad 'Aasim al-Maqdisi


"Islam is not merely a belief, so that it is enough merely to preach it. Islam, which is a way of life, takes practical steps to organize a movement for freeing man. Other societies do not give it any opportunity to organize its followers according to its own method, and hence it is the duty of Islam to annihilate all such systems, as they are obstacles in the way of universal freedom. ...
This religion is really a universal declaration of the freedom of man from servitude to other men and from servitude to his own desires, which is also a form of human servitude; it is a declaration that sovereignty belongs to God alone and that He is the Lord of all the worlds. It means a challenge to all kinds and forms of systems which are based on the concept of the sovereignty of man; in other words, where man has usurped the Divine attribute." Qutb

 

Care to point to ANY of that Dogma found in the Bible? And when you cant, you should realize it was instead Catholic Dogma pronounced by the Pope and Catholic church

 

Christianity is a pacifistic religion. Jesus was basically the world's first hippie.

 

Jesus and the New Testament are about love and peace of God toward man. Mohammed and Islam are about anger and hate of God toward man. Jesus was love. Mohammed was anger and savagery. That's the foundation of each ideology. What people do is a different story.

 

Catholics are Christians.

 

The bible we have today was the selection of the Catholic Church. Had Jesus been around 3-400? years later when the writings to be included in the bible were selected, it likely wouldn't have included the old Testament

 

And the Old Testament which is included in the Bible but which you conspicuously, and conveniently, avoid mentioning? Lots of smiting, killing and massacring of non-believers in there.

 

No excuse then. Catholics are also Christians, and the Bible contains both New and Old Testaments.

 

And while much of the more violent and intolerant old testament is abrogated by the more peaceful and tolerant new testament, in Islam it is the more peaceful and tolerant Meccan verses of the Koran, that are abrogated by the more violent and intolerant Medinan verses of the koran.

 

No need to make excuses.

Ephesians 2
15 by abolishing in his flesh the law with its commandments and regulations.

Hebrews 8
13 By calling this covenant "new," he has made the first one obsolete; and what is obsolete and aging will soon disappear.

Romans 10
4Christ is the end of the law so that there may be righteousness for everyone who believes.(*)

Romans 7
6But now, by dying to what once bound us, we have been released from the law so that we serve in the new way of the Spirit, and not in the old way of the written code.

2 Corinthians 3
13We are not like Moses, who would put a veil over his face to keep the Israelites from gazing at it while the radiance was fading away. 14But their minds were made dull, for to this day the same veil remains when the old covenant is read. It has not been removed, because only in Christ is it taken away.

Galatians 3 13Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us, for it is written: "Cursed is everyone who is hung on a tree."

23Before this faith came, we were held prisoners by the law, locked up until faith should be revealed. 24So the law was put in charge to lead us to Christ[h] that we might be justified by faith. 25Now that faith has come, we are no longer under the supervision of the law(*)

 

Yes they are, but Catholic doctrine is still catholic doctrine.

 

Fred Phelps, Ku Klux Klan etc?

Excellent cherry-picking. You do it so well. Pity it's so bloody obvious.

 

Excellent cherry-picking. You do it so well. Pity it's so bloody obvious.

 

You are the one ignoring what the new testament says about the old

Ephesians 2
15 by abolishing in his flesh the law with its commandments and regulations.

Hebrews 8
13 By calling this covenant "new," he has made the first one obsolete; and what is obsolete and aging will soon disappear.

Romans 10
4Christ is the end of the law so that there may be righteousness for everyone who believes.(*)

Romans 7
6But now, by dying to what once bound us, we have been released from the law so that we serve in the new way of the Spirit, and not in the old way of the written code.

2 Corinthians 3
13We are not like Moses, who would put a veil over his face to keep the Israelites from gazing at it while the radiance was fading away. 14But their minds were made dull, for to this day the same veil remains when the old covenant is read. It has not been removed, because only in Christ is it taken away.

Galatians 3 13Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us, for it is written: "Cursed is everyone who is hung on a tree."

23Before this faith came, we were held prisoners by the law, locked up until faith should be revealed. 24So the law was put in charge to lead us to Christ[h] that we might be justified by faith. 25Now that faith has come, we are no longer under the supervision of the law(*)

Matthew 5:
38 You have heard that it was said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth.
39 But I say to you, Do not resist the evil man [who injures you]; but if anyone strikes you on the right jaw or cheek, turn to him the other one too.
43 You have heard that it was said, You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy;
44 But I tell you, Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you,

 

Frankly I couldn't give a flying fart what a 2000 year-old book of myths and fairytales says.