Ben Carson just referred to slaves as 'immigrants'

As I've written in several posts, kidnapped slaves from Africa were not immigrants. There were classified as imports under American law and the importers had to pay a $10 federal tax per head.
The last slave ship supposedly docked at Mobile, Alabama, in the autumn of 1859 or on July 9, 1860. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clotilde_(slave_ship). They were not immigrants.

When a person has been kidnapped and locked in the kidnapper's house he isn't called the kidnapper's houseguest. He's called his victim. Words matter.

 

Yep....you can prove anything if you are WILLING to look for it!

 

I know the slavery of 150 years ago was a terrible thing. The past is past because it has passed. The new form of slavery is still slavery.

 

Who are we talking about?

 

He's not far off in what he said;Lincoln is a popular figure among some white nationalists because of his racialist views. He lobbied for more stringent Black Codes in Illinois as a politican there in 1852 and again in 1857, and as President did indeed look into deportation as an option. We know exactly what his plans were for 'freed' salves from his policies in the slave states 'liberated' during the war: Blacks were to stay on the plantations and not leave without written permission from the plantation owners, and because they were 'free' they were to be paid $3 a month.

Anywhere from 500,000 to 1,000,000 blacks died from disease and/or starvation during the war, a majority of those in 'property camps' set up by Union forces to prevent blacks from going North. Why would they be kept from doing that if the war was about 'ending slavery'?

 

Employers love to pay slave wages to immigrants rather than decent wages to people from the U$A. This has zero to do with any liberals wanting cheap products, lol.

And now conservatives want to do damage to those immigrants, the least powerful in the situation, and who did not create it. But, conservatives seem to jump at any chance to exercise bigotry and hurt someone. They'll say, "oh yeah, and fine the employers for hiring them", but with no energy behind it. What excites them is HURTING some Mexicans!!! Make their children cry! Make them suffer!!!

 

Loving the country means working to change what is wrong with it. Obviously the U$A is far from perfect. And you accept that? All that imperfection, the considerable mess, if you love the country, then you don't want it to improve? By most indices, the U$A is the worst of all developed nations, as a place to live.

Democracy means working for change, not wallowing in complacency and calling it patriotism

 

Obama said it but the left doesn't care about what is said. Just who says it.

 

They were called cattle. Would you have preferred that Obama and Carson called them cattle?

It was a mass migration, forced by their own people selling them as slaves to a variety of different countries. Be mad, but dem's da facks, Jack.

 

The wonders done for the black American community by the Democratic Party over the last 60 plus years to make them into the economically independent and proud people they are today.

Not you.

 

This is revisionist history at its worst. I have a quite extensive book of Lincoln's letters. No where in this book can ANY of this sentiment be found. There was a somewhat close bond between Frederick Douglas and Lincoln. The fact remains, Democrats wanted to keep blacks as property.
All this aside and back to the topic, Ben Carson is a shining example that black Americans can prosper and stand shoulder to shoulder with their white counterparts. Democrats just despise that notion!

 

Some believe because we are not part of the "globalist effort" and do not embrace complete socialism, there is something wrong with it. For those that feel that way, Sweden would be a good place for them. I would say they don't really love their country. They want to morph it into something it never was intended to be.

 

Just read this. You apparently don't have everything of Lincolns.

http://quod.lib.umich.edu/j/jala/2629860.0014.204?view=text;rgn=main

 

Only to the rich men. The men actually fighting the Civil War didn't fight over slavery. 90% to 95% of the soldiers took care of their lands themselves and had no need for slaves. They had states rights in mind, and freedom from the federal government.

 

That's right. When the Union hired freed black men as soldiers (finally), they were paid much less than the other soldiers and those who asked for the same pay were either shot on the spot or imprisoned. Lincoln's Emancipation Proclamation was a last ditch effort to pull the Confederates' focus off the war. It just didn't work because most of them were fighting for something else. His end-game was to capture all of the freed slaves and ship them off to Liberia OR put them out west and let them colonize there because he said that both races couldn't intermingle. As a Confederate descendant, I despise Lincoln. I find it ironic that he's celebrated by so many blacks today. A product of our History education I suppose.

 

That's the dumbest thing I've read in a while. Unless you're just being sarcastic. Got any other MSM talking points?

 

Then go live elsewhere and get back to us in a month. Democracy means control of an organization or group by the majority of its members. We voted to make America great again, like it used to be when it was the greatest and strongest country in the world and didn't back down to little 3rd world cesspools like Syria. You have a really effed up vision if you think we're the worst of all developed nations. We're not the worst by any measure but we're finally working on being the best again.

 

I've never heard of Lincoln being a hero to the white nationalists, or slaves having to get written permission to leave plantations, but the rest of what he said about Lincoln is true, and a lot more.

I agree with you 100% on Carson being a shining example of what blacks can do if they don't play the victim and blame everyone else for their downfall. We all have the same opportunities, and even granted impoverished blacks with better chances than anyone else to succeed.

 

I know the lefty meme of "mean conservatives" is a popular one but it is false. I am an independent and just want America to look out for its citizens first. It has nothing to do with hate or bigotry.

Libs do want cheap products. Free stuff if they can get it. They do not care about the poor people as long as they can get free stuff.

 

What's always amazing is that conservatives are grabbing up the same free stuff. They just try to hide while they r doing it.

 

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Yet, Dr. Ben Carson uses more of his brain than most men walking this earth. BAMMM! There's your Stupid! Check out the link!

 

Thanks for posting this! I wonder what excuse they will give for Obama saying the same thing? One up for Dr. Carson!

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We don't know who gets what, but what we do factually know is that the democrats reach out to their base by throwing freebies and handouts in their voters' faces. The Conservatives don't do that.

 

That's not the point. The point is.... Where is your post against Obama saying this... when he did?

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Oh no, it is not.

It is not an equal burden on a 92 year old woman as it is on a 25 year old man. It is not an equal burden in counties in Mississippi that closed offices in predominantly Black counties where IDs could be obtained. It is not an equal burden when the documentation required is not available to people whose "birth certificate" amounts to an entry in the family bible. It is not an equal burden in Texas where the commute to get the ID is 60 miles one way.

No, it is not "equal" at all and THAT is the purpose of the legislation, is it not?