Climate change: ‘human fingerprint’ found on global extreme weather

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  1. MrTLegal

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    If you are facing a lack of water and food, would you be willing to blow up a bomb to get water and food?

    If you want an example of AGW being directly tied to an international and terrorism crisis, then I point you to the Syrian Civil War. A civil war that has been directly tied to a man-made exacerbated drought in the Fertile Crescent.

    Finally, this is the policy of the Defense Department that is currently lead by Donald Trump.
     
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    Do you think this point is particularly relevant or substantive?
     
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    Another Manntastic claim. There absolutely no trend in these weather events but don't let that stop you from believing the fear mongering.
     
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    Do you believe that these posts are particularly substantive or persuasive?
     
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    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Not for anyone that doesn't know the facts.
     
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    Oh the double negatives. Let me make sure I understand:

    So a blanket statement, without evidence, that there is absolutely no trend in the weather events (in direct contradiction to the sourced article to which you are replying) is particularly substantive and persuasive to the people who know the facts?
     
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    But the earth is heating up on the inside too. It has to be all that digging.

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    The Earth is heating up from the inside because of Radioactive Decay...
     
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    Pielke proved there were no weather trends and of course he is now labeled a denier even though he believes in AGW. That is the danger of providing facts in the hysterical world of the new religion.
     
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    Oh then it wasn't the Soros and the neo cons NGO's that wanted to oust Assad that caused the civil war? Then why were we arming the terrorists? :roll:
     
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    Makes me want to start a thread on evolution - I'll bet many of the same voices will be heard denying that, too.
    Big difference is, I really don't care who doesn't believe in evolution (they haven't evolved that far anyway) because that won't kill my children, but allowing the earth to be cooked IS important.
     
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    If he believes in AGW, then he believes in a weather trend you stonsahbfoiabsf....

    *sighs*

    I looked up the Pielke article that you are trying to reference and I found this: http://www.climatedepot.com/2016/08...me-weather-how-does-media-get-away-with-this/

    Pielke is not proving anything. He is making an argument and using some research to back up his claim. His conclusions are contradicted by other scientists in this field. Why are you so enthused to embrace this one particular scientist over the conclusions of the overwhelming percentage of climatologists about this aspect?
     
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    Do you understand that something like a civil war can have multiple influencing factors?
     
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    Do you realize the earth's diameter is 7,926 miles and we have never gone more than eight miles into it? Now that's a lot of mass to be affected by radioactive decay.

    Tell you what though, I'm a Christian and Orthodox theology believes that it's love that binds the world together. Which means that when it grows cold and falters, then you can expect the worse ... and that includes changes in the climate as well. The worse I fear is yet to come.

    (Anyway this doesn't mean we have to keep destroying the earth with garbage. There are now fake islands in the Pacific consisting mostly of computers... which is disgraceful.)
     
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    Oh....I see. Nevermind.
     
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    okay, once you have evidence of this let me know. Did you know that making the batteries on a prius pollutes more than driving a hummer for 30 years? Of course you didnt. You probably drive one. Way to make it partisan, though.
     
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    I have no problem with the concept of AGW, I do take issue with us thinking we can dictate exactly what level we want the ocean to be at because its convenient or direct weather patterns to area's that we prefer because its where people are. I live at 8' above sea level and have confidence that I will be long dead before my house is directly affected.

    IMO the biggest threat to humanity is global conflict/instability, which seems to be a lost cause knowing our history of conflict and war, if we solved that problem (hahah), perhaps other issues such as lessening our dependence on fossil fuels wouldn't seem so daunting.

    If/when sea levels rise, we will mitigate, and relocate as necessary.

    Even with the agreed upon protocols from the recent past, I can't imagine that we will have a measurable impact on our overall climate, especially when I read that the best we're hoping for is a 1 degree change in 2100 or something like that... good lord...

    Until we eventually figure out the next technology/energy source and figure out our global population issues, I think we need to just simply assume that worst and prepare for it. If in the meantime if some low lying area's have to relocate their population so be it.
     
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    Its speculation of the scientist.
     
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    Unfortunately, preparing for the worst is really unfeasible. The amount of damage and destruction associated with a 6-7 celsius degree warmer world is just not something within humanity's grasp.

    I will note that even reducing the future warming by a small amount is a worthwhile goal. The amount of financial costs associated with the warming planet does go up exponentially with each bit of increased warming.
     
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    As opposed to the speculation of an anonymous online poster?
     
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    Climate Change. By a massive, massive margin.
     

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