NY proposing bill to require liability insurance for gun ownership.

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  1. DoctorWho

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    When I was U.C., you were most likely to get stabbed with an icepick or fish filette knife.
     
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    Prove it
     
  3. Bowerbird

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    Which actually proves banning guns (which they did not actually do) did work. It proves there is a level of violence within the society, that if guns WERE availiable like they are in the USA, would end with the same rate of gun homicide you have
     
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    Lots of children have been killed. Sometimes by their siblings
     
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    And you would have had a better chance of survival with a lower adverse outcome than a gunshot wound - or are you going to tell me being stabbed with an ice pick has a worse outcome than being shot with a gun?
     
  6. Maccabee

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    (1) He's like three months into his presidency. Give him time to act. Plus either him or congress already acted favorably for gun rights. (2) That wasn't the point I was making. I'm saying that because you guys pushed your liberal agenda down our throats, we responded by voting in President Trump and a republican majority congress.
     
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    That has nothing to do with guns. Show me how much trump loves guns. Lol
     
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    How many in Australia and the UK compared to the USA

    Crap mate - you have to add up multiple countries to get the same rate of school shootings as the USA

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_school_massacres_by_death_toll
     
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    Please provide your data.

    What difference does it make? We aren't nor are we Constitutionally able to adopt the draconian gun control laws of either of those two countries. How come you never compare the US to Russia?
     
  10. Maccabee

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    I rather be shot at than to be ran over.
    I don't drink, I don't go to bars, and I don't get into fights unless the fight is brought to me. So I as an American don't worry too much about being punched.
     
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    Go for it - last I looked Russia had more mafia than Italy - so probably a good comparison to the USA

    Better yet why don't we compare the USA to Somalia or Yemen of South Africa?
     
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    No but my point is you can never have a gun free society. Someone, somewhere despite your laws is going to be armed.
     
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    I have never once advocated a gun free society. Who are you talking to?
     
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    That isn't the point and you know it.
     
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    Gosh, how is the US more like those countries than to OZ?

    Still waiting on some data and analysis.
     
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    It is exactly the point. We should only do what has been proven successful elsewhere
     
  18. Bowerbird

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    Personal responsibility

    I know this is an anathema to many gun owners but that is essentially what our legislation did - after all we have more guns in private hands now than we did before 1996 so legislation has not stopped us OWNING guns - but it has enforced personal responsibility
     
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    Giggle, I could get a Gun easily quickly in any Country.....
     
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    I don't know - you were the one that pulled Russia out of the Wheeties box
     
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    Yep any time you want to try that in Aus please be prepared to meet some very interested law enforcement officers
     
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    Given the exact same conditions. That's the way science works. Let me know when we're an island and the Black population has been reduced to 3%.
     
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    Nope it's close enough. Thanks
     
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    This:

    Rucker:
    That's why I don't go to bars where gangs and drug runners hand out. If you aren't a black male, involved in crime, associated with criminals or in a violent domestic relationship, your chances of being shot are almost negligible.

    Bowerbird

    But still far far higher than here in Australia or the UK

    Please show that if an American isn't a black male, engaged in crime, associating with criminals or in a violent domestic relationship that an American's change of getting shot is "far, far higher than here in Australia or the UK". The current ration is only about 4 to 1, so I'm curious what far, far higher means in real numbers.
     
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    Ok.

     

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