Transgenderism and Children: Child Abuse?

Children do not care about "exploring their sexuality" or finding what "they really are"- basically, children are asexual and therefore it is very dangerous to expose them to the ill and imaginationless mind of a Liberal adult. At puberty, we are hormonal wrecks and do not know in or out and therefore it is probably best to wait after puberty with this type of descisions.

 

You say that, yet children are clearly gendered when we make distinctions between things like "boy toys" and "girl toys". From their sex alone we more or less decide what their interests and aspirations have to be (e.g. boys must be interested in trucks and being firefighters while girls must be interested in dress-up and being princeesses) and any deviation from the norm is reprimanded from both adults and their peers.

 

the thread is about gender not sexuality

 

Generally speaking, boys do prefer "boy toys" and vice versa, thus the categorisations of "girl toy" respectively "boy toys". In short, the supply is dependent on the demand.

However, it is - of course - not good to be on any side of the extreme; forcing your daughter to play with dollies and dresses is bad too. The main point is that adults should not interfere in the games of children.

 

So?

 

I used to pretend I was a cat when I was a child, but never was I "trans-species" or anything like that and (thankfully) never did my parents ever take this pretending as some kind of "identity issue". Children have great imagination and that should never be confused for "trans-ism".

I do know that one is born transsexual (chemical imbalances in prenatal stage), however children should be left as they are.

 

Your comment was about sexuality. Which is irrelevant to the discussion.

 

Not it was not. You just cherry-picked two words from a post of several sentences. You are being dishonest.

 

"sexuality"
"asexual"
so you were talking about sexuality.

I don't really care about your second sentence. What I'm saying is that this sentence which I quoted was about sexuality, not gender, and so is irrelevant to a discussion about gender.

 

At the current moment, I don't think there's any trans activist who advocates letting minors have sexual reassignment surgeries, or even take hormones. The most that they tend to support is allowing children to take puberty blockers until they're old enough to make an informed decision on their own. The poll seems like a strawman.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hijra_(South_Asia)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mukhannathun
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galli
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two-Spirit
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_gender

It has been around for thousands of years and can be seen across the globe and in different countries whose cultures wildly differ from one another. It is safe to say that it is not a "fad," any more than homosexuality.

 

Sure, but it's another issue whether that preference is innate or learned. For the most part I lean towards the latter, but that's for another thread.

In the first paragraph you seem to be equivocating transgenderism with pretending to be an animal, but immediately in the next you acknowledge that the comparison is flawed. Why are you using it to support your argument?

 

Your interpretation of the term "sexuality" is rather vague, very simplistic and quite pornographic. Sexuality actually carries much broader connotations than being solely seen as synonymous with "eroticness". Clearly you have an issue with semantics.

 

It is most likely a combination where nature plays a biggerrole than you would like to think.

My points was that children like to play "make brlieve" and not all of their imaginative expressions should taken as serious manifestations of their true identities. If we did this, every child would be transgender and we all would have had 1200 sex changes already. My point was not at all to ridicule transgenderism and equate it to the stupidity of pretending.

 

Ah, my mistake for misreading you then.

I understand that children can have the wrong idea of what dysphoria is or what transitioning means. This is why I would prefer offering something like puberty blockers to prolong the period when they can decide whether or not they want to commit to transitioning.

 

Let children live as they want, however, when it comes to surgical intervention, I feel like waiting until they are 18 is not unreasonable to ask. Though I suppose the case is different for every individual.

 

I would like to add however that transgender is not a new thing. It has been around as long as human beings have. We are simply exposed to it more now.

 

Lol are you for real

That doesn't mean 'sexuality' and 'gender' have the same meaning, as you evidently seem to believe they have

I think you have an issue with not knowing what you're talking about, as it's pretty clear you can't use the correct terminology, and by extension differentiate between 'sexuality' and 'gender'.

 

Anything that involves inordinate sexual predilections is a result of childhood sexual abuse and childhood psychological abuse, so in order to support such anomalies, the supporter of such, gives his or her stamp of approval for pederasty, pedophilia, child abuse, psychological abuse and all other abhorrent behaviors that result in psychosis.

 

Transgenderism, homosexuality, lesbianism, sodomy, Sadism and Masochism, orgies, etc., are a recent phenomena in actual historical terms. These things have manifested themselves over the past six thousand (6,000) years. Before their manifestation, they have never been known to Man. We live in a world of contrary behavior and all exhibitions and experiences of contrary existence have come due manifest.

 

This is absolutely not how mental illnesses work. Where the hell did you even get this from?

 

Are you high?

'Sexuality' does not only refer to heterosexuakity, homosexuality and bisexuality. It also refers to human behaviour, attutudes, roles and beliefs. The term 'sexuality' also covers "masculinity" respectively "femininity" and is the term natural science would use to desctibe transsexuality. 'Gender' is simply tge Sociological term and only refers to the social aspects of male and female. 'Sexuality' is a broader biological term and therefore more correct as using 'gender' is the same as reducing transgenderism to a product of social engineering. <Mod Edit- Rule 2>

I probably have a much better idea of terminology than you do as I have a degree in liberal arts and spend most of my spare time reading about evolutionary-biology.

 

This is not true. There is biological proof supporting both homosexuality and transsexuality develops in man already in the prenatal phase. Equating homosexuality and transsexuality to paedophilia and necrophilia is dishonest and factually incorrect.

 

Correct, but 'sexuality' is an umbrella term that covers attraction, whether it be sexual or emotional, but does not refer to someone's gender.

Sex =/= Sexuality

Transsexuality refers to the sex/gender of a person, not their sexuality (who they're attracted to).

You've already sunk to ad hominems, well I can declare this debate won then.

Argumentum ad verecundiam

Two fallacies in a single post, my goodness me...

(((I mean I also study liberal arts (social sciences) as well in my 4 year MA but okay, but w/e makes you sleep better at night.)))

 

The information comes from helping raise children (nieces and nephews). It does not take a person who enlists in theory and supposition to comprehend how children develop mentally.
Being that you have positioned yourself a some "childhood psychologist", to me this is synonymous with fraud, explain to me how what I stated in the initial post is incorrect.

 

It can refer to someone's gender.

For the millionth time; The biological term 'sexuality' covers transsexuality too.

You are intentionally misinterpreting me for no real reason at all.

I have studied Cultural anthropology specifically and a few courses in ethnology, sociology and even some (compulsory) gender studies.