Librarians School Ivanka Trump After Tone-Deaf Tweet

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  1. Derideo_Te

    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    Given that public libraries are the best loved government services of We the People it looks like Trump wants to harm America more than anything else.

    And just to put this into perspective the budget for IMLS is $230 million but Trump has already spent about $40 million on trips to play golf at Mar-a-lago in less than 3 months. That does not include the cost of the security at Trump Tower either. And when you add up the travel costs of the rest of the Trump family we could be looking at about half a billion taxpayer dollars this year alone.

    Public libraries help tens of millions of hardworking Americans on a daily basis for an average cost of about 75 cents for each American per year.

    Why must Americans sacrifice their public libraries in order to pay for the travel costs of a billionaire and his family?

    And in case anyone wants to post a kneejerk response about Obama's travel costs they totalled just $97 million for all 8 years for an average of just $12.1 million per year.

    So should library funding be axed or should it be exempted from Trump's tax cuts?
     
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    Frank Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Let's hope Ivanka actually does look into the problem...and gets something done about it.
     
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    Yes, that would be a change for the better and it is sorely needed IMO.
     
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    That is reason enough to shut down every "library" in the nation.
     
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    The public library was the only place for miles around that had power and internet connections after Hurricane Sandy. Everyone was welcome to come and recharge their phones and let their loved ones know that they were safe and sound.

    But you believe that is "reason enough to shut down every "library" in the nation"! :eek:
     
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    Are people really this stupid or are a bunch of them purposely misunderstanding? Trump's budget doesn't mean ****. It won't pass congress, it is a sign of where he's willing to go.

    Don't believe me, how many of Obama's proposed budgets where passed. Don't know, I'll give you a hint. Zero, that's right 0. What are the chances Trump's proposed budget passes? That's right, zero.

    Ah but then who wants to let reality get in the way of Trump derangement syndrome.
     
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    So libraries are nothing but a place to charge phones now? Hahahaha! Shut em down!
     
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    What's amazing is how little people look to history for the purpose of purging books/knowledge.
     
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    Way too many book burnings in history for my liking! :eek:

    The Founding Fathers understood that this nation needed an informed electorate and public libraries were something that they saw as an essential means of informing the electorate.
     
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    How many times do you go to the library?
     
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    In true GOP fashion she should have said: Public libraries are a waste of tax payer's money, so let's cut them all.

    Instead, she said the politically correct thing and comes across looking like a total hypocrite. Of course, she and her children have probably never seen a public library from the inside. That's where the ordinary folks go, and she couldn't be seen mingling with them.
     
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    I was a library trustee volunteer for 18 years.

    Public libraries have walk in traffic that many corporations would envy!

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    With the info available online these days, books are obsolete. Perhaps the Amish still use books.
     
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    Public libraries are about as useful as public phones in this era. At least in their current form they are probably the only reason many liberal books sell even one copy.
     
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    Libraries provide access to online databases that many students cannot afford on their own.

    And in case you weren't aware there are things called ebooks and ebook readers that you use on your phone and/or tablet. Libraries lend for those devices too.
     
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    Shows you that the posters you replied to never set foot in a public library or checked out their online resources. It is their loss.
     
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    Its easy to tell who uses libraries and who doesn't.
     
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    We have schools for that.
    Currently every school library should be equipped with enough computers for any underprivileged student to have all the access necessary.
    If yours doesn't, why don't you get off your butt and get them some.
     
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    Perhaps the better approach would be the total digitization of all first editions, and then make the content available, free, on the internet. Put first editions in vaults for safe keeping. Otherwise, what value now, do libraries serve?
     
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    That $0.75 per year must really be a strain on the budget of the extremist alt rightists!
     
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    School libraries are not open after school hours whereas libraries are open during evenings and weekends when students are doing their homework.

    Many libraries offer homework assistance programs for students and tax preparation services for the elderly. They run Summer programs that features the arts and sciences. They run early reading programs for pre-schoolers.

    Public libraries cater to the needs of all Americans every day of the week.
     
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    That's what you say about every government program. If you want to support a public library, do so, leave me out of it. Subscribe to a maintenance fund. It shouldn't be the business of the federal government.
    The program referenced is not a daily running fund. It's for "grant programs".
    Knowing what most government grants fund, I don't want my money taken at gunpoint to feed your propaganda stream.
    Not even $0.75.
     
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    There shouldn't be a tax system that demands assistance programs to fill out the forms.
    Sure it's for the sciences, it's always about faked up climate propaganda these days. No thanks.
    Homework assistance should be offered by the schools. The lesson plans should be retailored as to not need homework in the first place.
    This system is designed around an air of failure.
    It's why there are so many. Failures.
     
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    Since you know so much about "what most government grants fund" what exactly do you find objectionable about library grants?

    Do you have a problem with grants for children's books?

    Do you have a problem with grants for English as a Second Language for immigrants?

    Do you have a problem with grants for STEM programs?

    What exactly do you have a problem with spending your $0.75 per year on?
     
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    Onus is entirely on you to prove that these imaginary "failures" that you are alleging have anything at all to do with public libraries.
     
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