The Bible says abortion is NOT murder.

Discussion in 'Abortion' started by Ronstar, Apr 21, 2017.

  1. Vegas giants

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    Abortion is often the most responsible choice possible
     
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    Killing makes life easier.
     
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    And you can look a daughter in the eye and say all your hopes and dreams were crushed because I guilted you into having a child you were never ready for. Sure you could have had lots of children after medical school but now you are stuck at the wiggly piggly for life because of me. How kind
     
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    Damm right. And when you do decide to have kids they can have a real life.
     
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    YES, it IS easier on the fetus to kill it BEFORE it suffers more...DUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH


    I've read all your flamebaiting posts and all the claptrap about how we're killing newborns because the Romans did and how you think it's FUN and GOOD to bring deformed children into the world because afterall , YOU aren't the one suffering and you contend that abortions are performed After birth :eekeyes:(WHAT!?) (newborns are killed) ( which is only part of the ignorance of this topic that was shown).

    YES, I would find it quite easy to abort a fetus I knew would suffer horribly after birth...but YOU seem to think it would be nice to make this future child suffer for the rest of it's life ...and then you knock other posters !!!???? OMGAWD!
     
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    Sure does! Ask any warmonger you know!!! Start with Trump!
     
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    I really doubt some people can recognize kindness and generosity since they're blinded by self righteous and ignorance ...they'd rather a child be born deformed to suffer the rest of their life to prove some kind of weird "point".......maybe they think the world will be saved the more children suffer ....
     
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    Here it is , the "punish the parents for having sex by making the ensuing baby suffer ""...

    Does that REALLY make sense to you???? But you love those children , don't you????
     
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    :) You: """The Bible is an excellent report of the ancient days. But many Democrats think law is a never stable thing to begin with. """



    AS YOUR POST CLEARLY SHOWED :) You showed how the laws changed over time :)


    You: """They believe the constitution is there to change at will.""

    Just more of your unproven partisan crap that you seem to have to infuse in every topic...


    IF Anti-Choicers want abortion to be illegal they WILL have to change the Constitution :)
     
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    Yep, tell your children that the reason they lived is because you could still fulfill your dreams if you let them live (AND SUFFER with DEFORMITIES). Very loving.:roll:
     
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    Loving a child so much that you are willing to kill it is a lie and a bad attempt to deflect from reality. The reality is that people don't want to spend the emotional and financial toll on the responsibility. You can at least be honest. A person who finds it ok to kill a healthy unborn child isn't suddenly going to love a "defective" one.

    Deformed children or children born in unstable situations aren't going to willingly die after birth. Unless a parent leads them. Which is what abortion is all about.
     
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    Loving a fetus so much that you are willing to suffer the loss rather than condemn it to a life of pain and suffering is the ultimate act of love.

    How selfish to bring a child into this world to suffer just to prove a point.....a barbaric act.

    Yes, the reality is that some parents do not want to spend the emotional and financial responsibilities of a child who may need multiple operations and spend it's life suffering, that is their RIGHT.

    YOU aren't going to help financially, it could be in the millions. If they already have other children THOSE children will suffer , too...



    You: ""A person who finds it ok to kill a healthy unborn child isn't suddenly going to love a "defective" one.""

    So why would you want that child brought into that situation?
     
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    YUP. Pretty selfish to bring a deformed child into this world just to benefit you.
     
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    Your trying so hard to make killing a loving selfless thing when it comes to the high burden of a special needs child.


    Why is it so hard to be honest? In one breath you advocate a woman's right to destroy a healthy life for what ever reason and the next you spew the selflessness and love of killing a defective one?

    It falls flat.
     
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    Thinks for the link.

    I believe SCOTUS took things like this into consideration when researching the historical pros and cons when deciding Roe v Wade.
     
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    Only to you.

    ""In one breath you advocate a woman's right to destroy a healthy life for what ever reason and the next you spew the selflessness and love of killing a defective one?"""

    Yes. They are two different things...

    Pretty selfish to bring a deformed child into this world just to benefit you.



    Loving a fetus so much that you are willing to suffer the loss rather than condemn it to a life of pain and suffering is the ultimate act of love.

    How selfish to bring a child into this world to suffer just to prove a point.....a barbaric act.

    Yes, the reality is that some parents do not want to spend the emotional and financial responsibilities of a child who may need multiple operations and spend it's life suffering, that is their RIGHT.

    YOU aren't going to help financially, it could be in the millions. If they already have other children THOSE children will suffer , too...



    You: ""A person who finds it ok to kill a healthy unborn child isn't suddenly going to love a "defective" one.""

    So why would you want that child brought into that situation?
     
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    Special needs kids enjoy life just as you do. Even in the extreme ...a child who would never develop past 2 years mentality ....Will laugh and enjoy what life has to offer them. A developmental delayed, autistic child certainly does enjoy life...and experiencing what life has to offer, the good and the bad. You want them dead? For them?

    This concept of unbearable suffering of the child is simply inserted in your head to fit the template that special needs kids are better off dead....for their benefit. An evil lie.
     
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    NO, deformed sickly children do NOT enjoy life as I, or YOU, do.... what a bizarre idea (to disguise your cruelty..)

    HOW exactly would YOU KNOW how those children feel? YOU DO NOT. Would YOU volunteer to be just like them? NO, you wouldn't.

    YOU are projecting to fulfill a skewed agenda when you really don't care about what they suffer..and they DO suffer, you just don't seem to care if they do....

    YOU do NOT know ALL those children and so can hardly comment on how "wonderful" they have it because you saw ONE laugh...how absurd! ( and cruel).

    Now, want to get brave and address the post (ALL of it) that you quoted:


    Pretty selfish to bring a deformed child into this world just to benefit you.



    Loving a fetus so much that you are willing to suffer the loss rather than condemn it to a life of pain and suffering is the ultimate act of love.

    How selfish to bring a child into this world to suffer just to prove a point.....a barbaric act.

    Yes, the reality is that some parents do not want to spend the emotional and financial responsibilities of a child who may need multiple operations and spend it's life suffering, that is their RIGHT.

    YOU aren't going to help financially, it could be in the millions. If they already have other children THOSE children will suffer , too...



    You: ""A person who finds it ok to kill a healthy unborn child isn't suddenly going to love a "defective" one.""

    So why would you want that child brought into that situation?
     
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    I still would not destroy that which I have created...
     
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    I wouldn't either but that "god" certainly did frequently....

    If he created the earth and everything in it he also created miscarriages.....
     
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    God did it all the time
     
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    You can't flush a newborn down the toilet, it would clog it.
     
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    Many people claim "the Bible" as justification for their anti-abortion position. Glad you realize that this is abject nonsense and has no relevance to the issue of abortion today.

    So then.. what does have relevance ? Prior to starting you first need to fix your terminology. While the term "unborn Child" is popular. This is a colloquialism - same as using the term "with child" to describe a pregnant woman. It does not mean that an actual "Child" exists - unborn or otherwise.

    If you want to use the word "Child" in reference to some stage of pregnancy - you must first prove - or at least substantiate the claim - that at that stage a living human/child/Homo sapiens actually exists.

    Otherwise you are committing a logical fallacy (Assumed Premise).
     
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    . Yes, but it has been tried.
     
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    After all these posts this is your only answer? This is all you've got? Does that mean you learned something?
     

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