Here is what I see: For those of us with actual experience in dealing with those who entered improperly, there was no way to get permission in the first place. Furthermore, those who obsess over the "illegal" word would never consider changing the laws to accommodate those who never had an automatic "in" in the first place. Wall or no wall, you will never get rid of the people coming from the south of the border. Furthermore, it is not YOUR place to decide who I can and cannot do business with. If you think you need foreign doctors from thousands of miles away that do not share your views to come here, become citizens, and then ship money back to another country thousands of miles away - and some of them will declare war on you, then that is YOUR prerogative. You cannot, through legislative means - or any other change that. I will not tell you who you "need" to address your concerns. Unlike the Israelis or some other warring countries, we are not dealing with invaders intent on over-running our country when dealing with the southern border. Those people had ample opportunity to become Democrats and vote the anti-immigrant factions into oblivion. They didn't. What you need is a Guest Worker status that does not end in an automatic path to citizenship. Rebuild your nation; change our culture so that American citizens go back to work and then move the Hell forward.
Liar trump is a fraud, a liar, and a cheat. He's made lots of money, but he's not a success as a person. He's a sleazebag who cheated students out of their tuition money and their dreams. He's cheated workers, suppliers, contractors, and investors who were stupid enough to trust him. He's filed bankruptsy SIX times in order to leave other people holding the bag for his stupidity and incompetence. He's a walking nightmare, not an "experienced builder." trump supporters are the most gullible and naive people on the planet. Lying trump has fed them so much Bullshyt that they now lap it up with gusto.
You forgot... he inherited his money. He did not "build" any financial empire. I had to vote for him as the lesser of two evils, but this nutty immigration policy he endorses is calculated so as to destroy Freedom and Liberty, leaving you NOTHING tangible for your efforts. It is a feel - good panacea that is, in reality, a phony magic elixir that cures nothing.
I've yet to find a Monarch that transgresses US borders seeking gainful employment, contributes to the community, raises a family, and provides the US military with their sons and daughters to serve the nation, but I won't generalize about all Monarch butterflies.
And I would join you in welcoming all LEGAL Monarch butterflies.... Other types and different colors of butterflies are welcome, too, so long as they are here LEGALLY....
The issue will be figured out one way or the other. I do think immigration should stop for a while at least so we have a chance to recover.
60 Minutes did an important segment tonight about Roberto Beristain, a law-abiding restauranteur with no criminal record, a respected member of his community for nearly twenty years that had created twenty jobs, dedicated to his loving family, one that any citizen might wish for. He reported to an ICE office as his status required that he do annually, and his wife, waiting for him in the parking lot, was told to go home alone. He was being incarcerated and processed for deportation to Mexico. She had to break the news to her daughters and young son that Trump, whom she had voted for, had broken up their previously stable, happy family. With approximately 11 million undocumented residents in the US, an estimated 3% of whom have committed felonies,Trump's wantonly crapping on traditional American values in this draconian manner is disgusting from the perspective of any decent, patriotic American. Even the most rabid xenophobe should be able to grasp the depravity of such a practice when the State wields its power to destroy an innocent, helpless family.
So, just curious - every proggy remark on this thread has been completely devoid of substance, but long on really childish insults. Did they hand out some sort of pamphlet on insults back at headquarters? Or are proggys just lame.
Your posts have been nothing but criticisms with nothing substantive. I guess when you don't have anything to offer, you have to attack what you don't understand.
Americans, with Christian churches conspicuous among those upholding human decency in the face of trumpery, will shout truth to power.
For many people, there are no visas that exist. There are strict quota limits on visas and they apply to specific jobs. Even the famed H1B has a limit of 65,000 people. In 2016 the limit was reached in April. There were 233,000 pending applications and employers willing to hire. In some states, like Georgia, you may see crops rotting in the fields because they cannot get the so - called "legal" workers. It's highly unconstitutional. Some employers are able to hire who they need and others are not. It violates that "equal protection of the laws" section of the Constitution. Additionally, some people fully qualify to leave their country, but their native country don't let them leave. Again, Mexico used to print up comic books teaching their citizens how to evade our immigration authorities. Instead of cutting the Mexicans a break and going after their government, we take it out on people trying to better their lot in life.
You're welcome to disagree with how I worded my post. But every statement is true. Your hero is a cheap conman and a fraud. Sadly, you refuse to see it. Or, maybe you just find it easier to wear blinders than to face the fact that you are supporting such a rotten person.
I watched the "60 Minutes" piece, Natty. I wanted to watch the piece on the Chicago Cubs, which came on last. The question that kept coming up in my mind, again and again and again, was "Why didn't this idiot ever bother to apply for legal status or to become a CITIZEN?!" He married a woman who immigrated here legally and did become a citizen, so why the hell didn't HE?! The always-überliberal Anderson Cooper didn't bother to ask that very, very, very obvious question, and the entire sub-topic of why poor, innocent, wonderful Roberto Beristain never bothered to apply for legal status was pointedly and completely AVOIDED. Typical "60 Minutes" pity-party, schlock journalism.... Was there, in fact, some other underlying reason why St. Beristain chose not to apply for citizenship, especially after his little "problem" coming back from Canada, once upon a time? Guess we'll never know, and we sure as hell won't find out from any of the hyperlib propaganda-merchants at CBS.... . Spin, span, spun....
Your hyper-partisan rant aside, I do not know whether Mr Beristain had applied for US citizenship or been prevented for some unspecified legal technicality. His wife, Helen, has said the couple have tried many times over the past 17 years to "fix his status." In cooperation with ICE, he had gained a work permit, driver's license and a Social Security number marked "Valid only with Department of Homeland Security authorization." I am unaware of whether ICE blocked his intent to gain citizenship, It was an opportunity to hear the unfiltered voices of Trump voters - Mrs Beristain and his friends and neighbours - as they were given the opportunity to comment on the actual consequences of trumpery. With an estimated 3.5 million illegal aliens having committed felonies in the US, targeting law-abiding, stable, job creators such as Beristain and breaking up a loving family is a prioritization that even some rabid Trumpies might not mindlessly enthuse over. I can understand your rage at a reporter you don't like giving them the opportunity to speak out. Apologists for Trump would much rather these folks had not been heard.
I thought you guys watched that segment. That man did apply and get a temporary status, an SSN, etc. and was working on getting his citizenship. He had everything in order. He even had an attorney.
So, again, the question: why, after all those years, couldn't this man become a naturalized citizen of the United States, or at least a LEGAL resident, and REMAIN one...? Is there some part of his "story" that CBS totally glossed-over or left out entirely? We don't know, and (surprise!) it never occurred to spin-merchant, Anderson Cooper to ASK THE QUESTION! Believe it or not, all other things being equal, I certainly would have welcomed him as a CITIZEN of this country with open arms! He sounds like a great guy, but there's got to be more to this story than what we were told.... BTW, what kind of 'attorney' couldn't figure out how to help this man with something seemingly so trivial after all this time? Not any attorney that I would hire.... . "Why ruin a great sob-sister story with inconvenient questions...?! We need to keep up our ratings!"
It is not difficult to get the other side, just google his name. For immigrants married to U.S. citizens for more than two years, they will be eligible for an immigrant visa (green card) under the Immediate Relative category. This category has no numerical limit on the number of visas issued each year, and therefore no waits for visas to become available. From green card to U.S. citizenship will take around three years. That's why your question is important - if all it takes from "I do" to US citizenship is approximately 6 years, who would sit on his ass for 20 years if they really wanted to stay here? Especially if they already got in a dust-up at the Canadian border. I say: tax evasion. Undeclared income. Smuggling. Identity theft. Something was untoward -- he wasn't just a nice guy too stupid to apply.
Prediction -- Now that we've carved down to the real center of this mystery surrounding why he never even BOTHERED to become a citizen, and now that we've asked the ONLY important question, we'll hear no more from the hyperliberal, whining sob-sisters who post here. They've rallied around the 'poor, oppressed victim' (as presented by Anderson Cooper), and now it's time to look past any REAL investigative reporting and "move along... move along...." ... "We've already told you all you need to know...."
Controlled border is better. I don't see this as a black or white situation. The border of a country can be less or more permeable according to the international context and the policies run by the government. Personally I’m not a lover of open borders [open in which sense and in which way? Totally open? It’s possible only within a union of a certain kind, like EU, but also here we can close the borders because of security matters, even within EU].
