UNESCO Passes Resolution Critical of Israeli Conduct in Jerusalem and Gaza

Legal occupying power? Are you kidding me? They are preventing 4,000 fishermen from earning living.

 

yes, Israel is the legal Occupying Power.

 

Shameful Gaza was never Jewish.....

 

bothers you to see Jews asserting themselves, huh?

 

They have been asserting themselves on the US dole and taking land, homes, civil rights and destroying olive groves for over 60 years. I am not impressed. They arrived seeking sanctuary and look what they have done.

 

meanwhile the Jordanians turned Jewish headstones into roads and destroyed synagogues in Jerusalem.

and committed acts of genocide.

 

Is this another one of those situations where it really isn't about population rights but rights to oil and gas?

 

There will always be racists, among Arabs and among Jews, it got nothing to do with the fued, S. Africa was one country shared by Whites and Blacks while the white minority controled the rest trhu racist laws, Israel controls the Palestinins terretories where one day a Pal state will be created, a seperate state from Israel, in addition the Arabs inside Israel had an option to become full citizens and those that do are not required to use seperate busses or toilets or whatever they did in S. Africa.
You Arabs use it as propaganda but it doesnt hold water, while the Whites in Africa were affected by the criticism on them because they knew they had racist laws - and eventualy they voted against Apartheid, the Israelis know you are full of ****. you cannot demand indipendance for the Palestinians and then whine why doesnt Israel accept them as citizens

 

Who owns the ocean?

 

OFC they fish Margot....., and obviously you didnt get the Yemen point, Gaza is a war zone and under blockade, many "fishermen" smuggle forbidden things into Gaza as if you didnt know, stop pretending and face reality, Gaza cannot declare war and expect we will treat it as a friendly entity.

 

We dont have an Ocean here but all countries have naval borders, Gaza isnt a country but has its own recognized area according to cease fire agreements with Hamas, Israel ships stick to their borders or in International waters, you are dreaming if you think we will allow free passage of ships to Hamas. we have no problems if they have ships in an Ocean thou - OK ?

 

That's a lie, prove Israel claimed Gas in Gaza waters.

 

Nobody mentioned free passage for shipping. The comment clearly referred to the IDF preventing Gazans from fishing by harassing them and shooting at them. This was just one incident of many, in contravention of the Oslo Accord which allowed fishing up to 20 miles offshore
https://972mag.com/idf-fires-on-gaza-fishermen-despite-expanded-fishing-zone/118468/
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/jul/24/gaza-fishermen-gunboats-israel-navy

 

Like I said we have an agreement with Hamas on how far they can go, if they pass it they get harassed, if they try to run they get arrested, why ? because they are under the control of a terrorist org. that so happens to be at war with Israel, perhaps you heard something about that.

 

Here: http://www.tomdispatch.com/blog/175...el,_gaza,_and_energy_wars_in_the_middle_east/

 

Don't give me that crap Gilos. Gazans are permitted to fish up to nine miles from shore, and they still get shot at and their nets wrecked by the IDF. Are you at war with the guy who just wants to feed his family, or is he a 'terrorist' too?

 

Ironically, suddenly Keystone is having second thought about a pipeline investment because of low oil prices... in spite of Trumps crowing.

http://www.tomdispatch.com/blog/175...el,_gaza,_and_energy_wars_in_the_middle_east/

And Israel has screwed everyone to hold oil can gas reserves in the Golan Heights and the Eastern Med which NO ONE WILL DRILL now.

 

From your link :
"Prime Minister Ehud Barak initiated the era of Eastern Mediterranean fossil fuel conflicts. He brought Israel's naval control of Gazan coastal waters to bear and nixed the deal with BG. Instead, he demanded that Israel, not Egypt, receive the Gaza gas and that it also control all the revenues destined for the Palestinians -- to prevent the money from being used to "fund terror.""

And this is from what your own source (above) qoutes:
"
The Blair government’s admirable goal of helping the Palestinian economy wean itself from about a billion dollars a year in international handouts may have driven BG in November 1999 to make former Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat and his tightly-controlled Palestinian Authority a local partner in the gas project, together with the Athens-based Palestinian concern, the Consolidated Contractors Company (CCC). Arafat clearly understood the financial potential of a billion dollars in royalties. Soon after the gas discovery, BG and its local Palestinian licensees approached the State of Israel to buy the gas. Then Prime Minister Tony Blair personally urged former Prime Ministers Barak and Sharon to finalize a deal.

Despite Blair’s enthusiasm for the deal, Mossad Chief Meir Dagan opposed the transaction on security grounds, that the proceeds would fund terror.2 Israeli fears were justified. Arafat and Fatah leaders stole billions from the public till to finance terror against Israel, as documents recovered by the Israel Defense Forces from Arafat’s compound revealed.3 Israel also faced virtually non-stop Palestinian terror attacks from 2000 to 2005, resulting in more than 1,000 Israelis killed."

So in the opinion piece you presented your authur clearly disputes one of his sources, BG needs to sell the Gas - you can only blame Israel for not wanting to buy it - not for "VETO" the Palestinian right to sell it, the 2nd intifada did not break beacuse of the Gas deal - that is a lie by your auther - the Intifada indeed made the sell to Israel less than possible but still later on Olmert did suggest to give services instead of mony that can be used against Israel - they dont have to accept it, we simply refuse to buy their Gas, BG could have sold it to someone else if they found any, obviously they did'nt, ofc now we have a blockade there so drilling is out of the questiuon - but still, in theory if they did have a buyer (Like Israel does even b4 we strated drilling) - we had something to talk about.

Lastly, dont jump on every anti Israel article, read first.....

 

And how the **** would you know who and where gets shot ? huh ? you are crapping all over this thread talking about things you wouldnt know you eye witnessed them, how wopuld you know if someone is a fisherman or a smuggler ? the smuggler said he didnt smuggle anything wow man that's so ****ing original - you dont know **** man

 

Yes of course; the excuse is always 'funding terror'.

 

And neither do you Gilos. I read what the press reports, just like you do-and that includes Israeli media.
http://www.timesofisrael.com/palestinian-fisherman-wounded-by-idf-near-ashkelon/
Shoot first, ask questions later...

 

It's not that complicated, it goes to Hamas and Hamas - wether you call it terror or freedom fighters for God - fight Israel, why would Israel pay to an enemy that fights it ?

 

The guy with a small boat is going to give his fish to Hamas? I'm sure they'll be eternally grateful for the herring.

 

Exactly, the only point of agrument here is wether the principle of checking Fishermen is justified, happy trigger soldiers or stopping smugglers can both happen twice a day.

 

The principle of it is justified, stop whining...