Global Quackery: Earth Has Not Warmed For Past 19 Years, New Study Finds

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  1. guavaball

    guavaball Well-Known Member

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    Find me one person who denies the climate changes on a regular basis. Just one Genius.

    Coming from the guy who believes in people who have never gotten a single long term prediction on the temperature right that's pretty amusing.
     
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    Long term prediction is that IT WILL RAIN in TN in April 2018...
     
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    Your comment didn't address anything in the post you responded to.
     
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    I owned you on the last issue. Now you come up with THIS nonsense?

    Show me you've learned the difference between weather and climate since you made that mistake.
     
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    guavaball Well-Known Member

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    It would help if you could read. The moronic argument was that only surface temp matters. That isn't earth temp especially when the temp readings are mainly in cities.

    Try reading next time.
     
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    guavaball Well-Known Member

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    LOL This delusional state of yours is amusing but rest assured I will continue to embarrass you :)

    Answer my question first which you ran from like a gutless troll.

    Find me one person who denies the climate changes on a regular basis. Just one Genius.

    Man up and answer it.

    And before you embarrass yourself further try reading the actual definition of climate change

    climate change
    noun
    1.
    a long-term change in the earth's climate, especially a change due to an increase in the average atmospheric temperature

    Weather
    noun
    1.
    the state of the atmosphere with respect to wind, temperature,cloudiness, moisture, pressure, etc.



    Face reality for once. Your side has never, EVER gotten a single long term prediction on the climate change correct. And I challenge you to prove otherwise. :)
     
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  8. mamooth

    mamooth Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    All of them, but global warming is the big one.

    You deniers were all predicting an ice age in the 1970s. You've been predicting that ice age for the last 40 years. It just keeps warming strongly instead, but you still BELIEVE. You denier ice age cultists cling to your faith that the HolyIceAge will get here soon, and you scream hatred at any heretics who deny your sacred religious teachings.

    In contrast, the scientists were predicting warming that whole time. (Deniers will say they were predicting an ice age, but deniers are lying big, like they always do.) The climate scientists have been right about everything for the last 40 years. That's why climate scientists have such credibility .They earned it, by getting it right over and over.

    Denier cultists, of course, have zero credibility, because they always fail with their predictions. Then they cry about how everyone is mean to them, because their precious snowflake psuedoscience is just as good and deserves respect, even if it is totally wrong every time. Bzzzt, sorry, that's not how science works. If deniers want everyone to stop laughing at them, they need to stop getting every single thing wrong.
     
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    mamooth Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Some cutlists are so ignorant of the basics, they actually think urban heat island effects aren't corrected for. Why? Because that's what their cult told them that, and in their mind, that settles it.

    Such childlike minds literally know less about the science than an average fourth grader. Sadly, they don't understand that, because their cult has always told them what special snowflakes they are.

    Guavaball, sorry to break it to you, but you're completely ignorant of this entire topic, and you have no business being in a discussion with the grownups. And if that triggers you ... well, it was necessary.
     
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    mamooth Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That's a major falsehood. Average Arctic sea ice thickness is at an all-time record low.

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    Guavaball, you tried pushing a total falsehood. That point isn't arguable.

    And we know why you did it. A crazy cult source told you what you wanted to hear, so you instantly believed. Fact-checking is something your cult frowns on, so you didn't do any.

    At this point, you have a choice.

    You can take your masters to task, and demand to know why they lied to you.

    Or, you can drop to your knees, thank them for the humiliation, and beg for more lies.

    We all know you'll choose the latter option.
     
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  11. guavaball

    guavaball Well-Known Member

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    Don't lie, its just embarrassing.

    https://www.thenewamerican.com/tech...ts-have-been-wrong-about-virtually-everything

    LOL Hey Genius, those are your people not mine. Those morons believed what you believed that man actions control the climate. Only back then it was cooling. Now its warming. Jesus you really need to educate yourself. Badly.

    You obviously don't have a clue what you are talking about if you think the ice age people in the 70s were folks who don't agree with the bullshit man made global warming theory. You really are embarrassing yourself here.
     
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  12. guavaball

    guavaball Well-Known Member

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    No evidence whatsoever. What a shocker.

    I understand its hard when your fake religion is exposed for the lies its been telling since the 70s.

    That's why you couldn't cite a single long term prediction your climate coots ever got right. :)
     
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    Once again no facts whatsoever to support a single piece of dung you are flinging around.

    Please try and get a grip on reality. City temperatures are not the same in the wild. I know its hard for your mind to grasp such an obvious concept but do try.

    http://www.naturalnews.com/2017-02-...caught-in-blatant-temperature-data-fraud.html

    Go back and look at what your hero Gore predicted for starters. Its obvious you don't have a clue what's going on here.

    http://www.climatedepot.com/2017/01...g-point-refuses-to-answer-enters-suv-in-snow/
     
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    mamooth Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Congratulations! You've managed to grasp what everyone else has known since forever. And you're so proud, probably like you were when you finally mastered potty training in the third grade.

    Did you know that if you take the temperature trends of the "bad stations", it's exactly the same as the trend from pristine stations?

    Of course you don't. Your cult didn't tell you that, so you had no hope of knowing it.

    That would because the urban heat island effects are corrected for.

    And even when it's been patiently explained to you, you still won't be able to understand such a simple concept. Again, you have no business bothering the grownups.
     
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    I am that person.
    And for sure there are millions like me.
    Or at least a hundred or two hundred thousand like me.
    Any questions?
     
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    Psst. Hey pinhead!
    Name one SATELLITE with a car or BBQ grill right below the temperature sensor!!!!!!

    Jesus Christ how can you be so stupid?
     
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    So, your source failed to show even a single climate scientist making a failed prediction. Your perfect record of failure and dishonesty continues. But then, what else can you do? You can't discuss the actual science, because you're hilariously ignorant of the actual science. All you can do is parrot kook cult blogs.

    If you'd like to discuss these "failed predictions" singly, I will be happy to do so. Pick one, talk about it in your own words, and we'll discuss it. But I doubt you will. You're just going to scream "Read my sources!" as a way to cover for the fact that you didn't even read your sources yourself. You certainly don't understand your sources, or the deceptions your sources are attempting.

    We do under those deceptions, because we've seen them a hundred times. I almost pity you. We've seen your type come and go a hundred times. You read some kook political blogs and fall hard for the propaganda. All bright-eyed and bushy-tailed, you show up on the internet, ready to show those awful liberals ... but those awful liberals have facts and data, which is totally not fair, so you do a face plant into a cow patty.

    Do learn some science history. The ice agers were Kukla, Bryson, and Bryson's UW pals. They all remained hardcore deniers until they died. The number of scientists who switched from cooling to warming is pretty much zip. Your cult lied to you about that, and you fell for it.

    If you disagree, you surely can name for us some scientists who switched from cooling to warming. So do so. Name specific names, and provide evidence. For the first time, back up your BS claims. It's just your credibility at stake, so no big deal.
     
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    mamooth Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Let's summarize.

    You made a wild claim with no evidence at all to back it up, other than the unsupported word of a guy on a crank blog.

    I showed the PIOMASS graph that demonstrated your claim was false. Such graphs can be retrieved here:

    https://sites.google.com/site/arctischepinguin/home/piomas/

    Instead of admitting your claim was false, or even just slinking away, you're just pretending I didn't show the PIOMASS graph that debunked you claim.

    So, you've graduated from "mistake" to "deliberate dishonesty."

    Free advice: When you're shown to be wrong, simply admit it. It's no sin to get something wrong. It is a sin to lie about it.
     
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    Not even close!
    The argument was that the lower troposphere, the air closest to the surface, as measured by SATELLITES which are immune to the UHIE, not the troposphere 4 to 6 miles above the surface of the Earth, closely matches the ground temperature readings.
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    Geeeze Louise, this discredited lie yet again!
    From your lying link;
    The map above is fake. NOAA has almost no temperature data from Africa, and none from central Africa. They simply made up the record temperatures.

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    The actual NOAA map of temperature stations below, notice how many red dots there are in the in the same gray no data areas of the above fake map.
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    Quackery graphs produced by quackery scientists hired by no-scientific political bureaucrats to promote government agenda.

    Objection #1:

    Any half educated person knows that even if to imagine ideal placement and existence and calibration of surface thermometers in ideally equal conditions the margin of error is +- 1C AT LEAST.

    Any half educated person knows that claiming a temperature anomaly .45C is quackery science, shamanism.

    Should I further expand on real in difference with ideal, or we can already throw all the graphs produced by quackery scientists into the garbage?

    Into the fire?


     
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    You obviously made that crapola up since real scientists use ANOMALIES to compensate for such less than ideal errors!!!
    The actual margin of error for temperature anomalies is +/- 0.08°C.
     
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    Yes, what are your academic qualifications and why should your opinion matter more than someone who has spent a lifetime studying the subject?
     
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    Really? Got a research paper on it or are you one of those who gets all of thier "data" from you tube?
     
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    The commitment at the UN is $100B/year, as I understand it.

    Targets start with the poorest nations in Africa where it will help maintain agriculture threatened by climate change and spur alternative energy in order to reduce CO2 output as they develop.

    Island nations such as the Marshall Islands are also on the list - places where people are living on land that will disappear due to the contribution of CO2 by developed nations.

    This goal was proposed by the UK as part of the 2009 talks, with the start date being 2020.

    I see no justification for the charge that this effort would exacerbate the CO2 production problem.
     
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