“The First Amendment was not written for Muslims....."

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  1. Liberty4Ransom

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    Some folks would cut off their noses to spite their faces. If you give governmet the power to religion, how long will it be before they start placing restrictions on the "exceptsble" dogmas?
     
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    I'm constantly surprised at how comfortable the right wing is with self admitting their bigotry (as a response to being called racists)
    And Media Matters IS an incredibly well sourced and documented sit. Their links actually lead to facts and work (unlike right wing sites that link to themselves or nothing at all).

    What you meant to say is that you don't LIKE Mediamatters
     
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    Infidel is a 15th century French world that is about those who pledge fealty to a lord or king or landowner.

    You don't know what Infidel means in Islam.

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    Well, I know how it is used and what it means in the common everyday vernacular, and I don't have to search back 700 years for some obscure rationalization.
     
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    Christians and Jews and Zoroastrians are not considered infidels in Islam.
     
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    “Thomas Jefferson’s Quran: How Islam Shaped the Founding Fathers” -


    The Founding Fathers and Islam

    https://www.loc.gov/loc/lcib/0205/tolerance.html




    : http://www.themuslimguy.com/news-th...ed-the-founding-fathers/#sthash.uMqTtda0.dpuf
     
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    Every white person in an immigrant in the US.
    And this nazi claims their white constitution is not meant for other foreigners?
     
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    Yeah, he got beat up a lot when he was a kid. LOL!

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    I heard this idea from some freedom-hating con artists that the First Amendment only
    applies to Christianity. THINK AGAIN.....It does apply to Muslims.[/QUOTE]
     
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    I have no use for illegals, but if they are on US soil, the US has jurisdiction.
     
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    Of course it includes muslims. What is wrong with righties?
     
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    Yes, those experts of course being the entire judiciary.

    Jesus Christ, its as if all you righties went to the same school, and they didn't have a 6th grade civics course.
     
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    Sad, isn't it? Boneheads still don't know that the US has jurisdiction over anyone on US soil.
     
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    They can own firearms.
     
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    Yes, they can buy a firearm even if they don't have a green card.
     
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    So, when they yell 'kill all infidels' they are only referring to Buddhists? Egypt’s Coptic Christians would really appreciate you telling the Islamist terrorists that because this is what they hear from the Islamists: call Egyptian Christians their "favorite prey," saying its fighters are under Allah's orders "to kill every infidel.": The group describes Egyptian Christians as “infidels who are empowering the West against Muslim nations”.
    One of the militants, carrying an AK-47 assault rifle, says in the video: “God gave orders to kill every infidel.......“Oh worshipers of the cross, the soldiers of the state are watching you,” says Abu Zubair al-Masri.
     
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    You're so silly!!!!!:roflol:
     
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    I do not think this is the question. Anyone on US soil, except diplomats, are under US jurisdiction. Plus, any immigrant on US soil has some of the Constitutional protections afforded citizens. Non-citizens on foreign soil have zero US Constitutional protection.
     
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    Not legally. The ATF says buying a gun requires you to enter citizen status of alien registration number on the federal dealer record of sale. There are a few exceptions. A green card holder can go to the right gun shop or maybe show and get a gun, but it is 99% probably illegal.
     
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    Yes, legally. You do not need a green card.

    You simply need an alien registration number to purchase a firearm. You do not need a green card.

    https://www.atf.gov/qa-category/nonimmigrant-aliens
     
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    Oh I dunno, we can read and see the reality of the situation?

    The vast majority of Muslims believe that Sharia law is the overriding law, and that Sharia should replace, in their view, the lesser laws of any country they are in.
     
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    The fact that you think media matter is a credible source prices your bias.

    You can call me a racist all you want. It still won't make Muslim a race.
     
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    Well, if that were the case you wouldn't have posted such a silly and demonstrably incorrect statement.

    Well, no, the vast majority of muslims do not believe this. And second, even if they did, that is irrelevant to their first amendment protections. They are free to believe anything they wish. Just as you are. Their beliefs, do not trump constitutional law. Just like yours don't.

    This is basic 6th grade civics.
     
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    Is that so? Tell me, how many have you actually discussed the issue with?
     
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    I had to check my recollection, but as I remembered, Jefferson had zero input to the Constitution or the Bill of Rights. The First Amendment's religious protection had nothing to do with Muslims, even if Jefferson thought it should. Jefferson also tried to start a state's rights rebellion against the national government, giving you some idea of how much respect he had for the Constitution.
     

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