Were There Really Serious Assassination Threats Against President Obama?

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  1. APACHERAT

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    How many nights has Obama spent under the roof of his new home ?
     
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    Quoted for truth.

    Except for FoxNews, the mainstream media treated Obama with kid gloves
     
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    I don't know. How about you provide us with a travel record of Obama in his post-presidency with locations and dates, and actually prove your conspiracy theory?

    I'm waiting....
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    I never heard of Trump settling any dispute with any one of his accusers outside of court. My research shows that they were all debunked but 1 who disappeared. Do you have any evidence to back your claim?
     
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    Link?
     
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    Every president probably has a small handful of crazy people that try to kill them. Trump however seems to be living in a much more violent America then Obama did. There is a lot of hate towards Trump several months into his presidency when everyone should have accepted him and moved on already. This is the craziest my mom has ever seen it she says and she is in her 60's. This is the worst I have ever seen it and I am in my 30's. You have to admit Trump is taking a lot of heat right now.
     
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    And most of it has been led by CNN and PMSNBC
     
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    There seems to be a staggering amount of frustration on the part of Trump critics and opponents

    1) They were convinced there was no chance he would win.
    2) They then floated the fantasy that the Electoral College wouldn't vote to make him president.
    3) They then floated the equally ridiculous fantasy that he would be impeached and removed from office his first week or at least his first month in office.

    4) Now, he's closing in on six months in office and the fantasys keep dropping.
     
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    How how many days of his post-presidency has he spent in countries with no extradition? From your article it appears he is just going to popular vacation spots mostly.
     
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    We are extremely frustrated. He is the the most unpopular president in modern American history and the least popular major party nominee in modern history. He won by crazy good luck and because he ran against the second least popular nominee in modern history.
     
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    Where the Obama's have been going were countries that have no extradition treaty with the USA, none at all.
    Same with Susan Rice.

    The Obama's did go to Italy where there is a extradition treaty with the USA but Italy will not extradite someone back to the USA who's accused of a crime while they were in political office.

    Have you ever read the 50 states extradition laws ?

    Here in California the state of California will not allow someone to be extradited back to lets say New Mexico for a misdemeanor.

    Which is interesting, Jerry Brown, the liberals in the state legislature along with Prop 47 has turned almost a hundred former felonies into misdemeanors. Under Prop 57 rape and assault and battery with a deadly weapon are no longer violent crimes in California.

    California the land of ****** and nuts and liberals !
     
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    You didn't answer my question. How many days did Obama spend in countries with no extradition treaty? How many did he spend in those with an extradition treaty? At least give me a list of countries he visited with and without an extradition treaty. If you can't back up your claim then this is basically all over, your conspiracy theory will die off with a whimper.

    To help you out here is a list of countries without extradition treaties with the US. And you only mentioned inter-state extradition with California not extradition to the federal government.
    http://www.wlox.com/story/22665099/countries-with-no-extradition-treaty-with-us
     
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    So you admit that you were not looking for the truth?
     
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    Holly crap you found a list of countries that have no extradition treaty with the USA.

    Freaking outstanding.

    Don't stop now, keep researching to find the answers to your question.
     
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    I was looking for an actual number figure count but whatever.
     
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    Wow, you don't even want to even try to support your conspiracy theory with any kind of evidence, what a sad sad way for your theory to die.

    You just keep believin bro!
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    Has to be a liberal in the photo.

    Aluminum foil isn't tin foil.
     
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    In other words, you again reject the truth in favor of some fantasy that you wish to believe Figures.
     
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    Usually when people ask for figures that means a specific or estimated number of something. If you can't provide one then....
     
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    Usually people are willing to admit that they are wrong, except liberals of course.
     
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    You're more than welcome to prove why I'm wrong.
     
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    Well let me know when you got another conspiracy theory, I'll get the popcorn when you do, I heard of one about how all the world leaders are shape-shifting reptilian aliens who control the world, plus Obama is one too, you might like that.
     
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    North Carolina Waffle House threatsEdit
    Jerry Blanchard, an accountant from Charlotte, North Carolina, was indicted for threatening to kill Obama during a July 15, 2008, breakfast at a Charlotte Waffle House.[5][12] Two customers said Blanchard told them, "Obama and his wife are never going to make it to the White House. He needs to be taken out and I can do it in a heartbeat."[5] The customers contacted the Secret Service, who questioned Blanchard. He denied making the threats, but allegedly told the Secret Service agents he believed Obama was the Antichrist prophesied in the Bible.[5][12] The Secret Service later got a second call from an employee of the Crowne Plaza Hotel in Charlotte,[13] where Blanchard was overheard in the lobby restroom saying into his cell phone, "I'll get a sniper rifle and take care of it myself. Somebody's got to do it ... We both know Obama is the anti-Christ."[5]Blanchard had claimed he would buy a sniper rifle and pistol from the Hyatt Gun Shop in Charlotte. The gun shop owner said Blanchard has visited the store but did not buy any weapons.[5] Blanchard was placed into custody on felony charges of making threats against a major candidate for president, and a psychiatric evaluation was ordered. It was questioned how much evidence existed that he planned to actually go through with an assassination attempt;[5][12] later, according to a federal affidavit, there was no proof of any furtherance of his crime.[14] In June 2009, Blanchard was sentenced to one year and one day in prison for making the threats. He was also fined $3,000 and ordered to be under supervised release for three years following his prison term.[14]

    Miami bail-bondsman training threatsEdit
    Raymond H. Geisel was charged with making threatening statements against Obama during a bail-bonds training class on July 31, 2008, in Miami, Florida.[12] During the course, Geisel referred to Obama with a racial epithet and said, "If he gets elected, I'll assassinate him myself."[2] Geisel also threatened to put a bullet in the head of then-President Bush, although Geisel later claimed he was joking. In his hotel room, authorities found ammunition, body armor, a combat-style hatchet, tear gas, a loaded 9 mm handgun and four loaded magazines. Geisel said he collected firearms, and was only using the gun for his bail-bonds course. Geisel remained in custody for a month.[2][12] He later plead "not guilty" on August 20, 2008.[15] With trial date set for January 2009, in December 2008 there was discussion of a plea agreement for Geisel who faced up to thirty years in prison if convicted on all four counts brought against him.[16] In December 2009, Geisel was convicted on weapons charges and served three years' supervised probation stemming from that conviction. The threat charges were dropped as part of his plea agreement.[17]

    Assassination plot in DenverEdit
    Main article: Barack Obama assassination plot in Denver
    Three men allegedly discussed shooting Barack Obama, then the 2008 Democratic Party presidential nominee, during his acceptance speech on the 2008 Democratic National Convention in Denver, Colorado. Cousins Tharin Gartrell and Shawn Adolf, and their friend Nathan Johnson, allegedly came to Denver specifically to kill Obama, and discussed in their hotel room how they could assassinate him.[9][18][19][20] On August 24, 2008, Gartrell was arrested when police found his truck filled with weapons and narcotics.[21][22][23] Johnson and Adolf were arrested shortly thereafter and, during a televised interview, Johnson later indicated Adolf was the one who planned the alleged threat.[19][24] Authorities later downplayed the threats and indicated the trio had little chance of successfully killing Obama.[4][19] The three men were charged with drug and weapons charges and sentenced, but did not face federal charges of threatening a presidential candidate.

    Assassination plot in TennesseeEdit
    Main article: Barack Obama assassination plot in Tennessee
    [​IMG] Wikinews has related news: Two men arrested in Tennessee for plot to kill Obama and school children
    Paul Schlesselman and Daniel Cowart, two men with strong white supremacist beliefs, allegedly planned a murder spree of 88 African Americans (14 of which they were planning to behead)[25] in Tennessee, many of whom were to be young students at an unidentified, predominantly African-American school. They allegedly planned to end the spree by driving their vehicle toward Barack Obama as fast as they could and shooting at him from the windows.[26][27] The two men were arrested on October 22, 2008, after they bragged to their friends about firing shots at a church in Brownsville, Tennessee.[26][28]Schlesselman and Cowart were in possession of several guns during their arrest, and they allegedly told police they intended to rob a firearms dealer and other stores to secure more weapons for the attack.[29] Both plotters pleaded guilty to various federal charges; Judge J. Daniel Breen of the United States District Court for the Western District of Tennessee sentenced Schlesselman to 10 years imprisonment on April 15, 2010, and Cowart to 14 years in prison on October 22, 2010.

    Scranton "Kill him" threatEdit
    In October 2008, it was widely reported that someone yelled "Kill him!" at a Scranton, Pennsylvania, Sarah Palin rally when Obama's name was mentioned. The Secret Service denied this claim, but a Scranton Times-Tribune editor said, "We stand by the story. The facts reported are true and that’s really all there is."[30] Also, MSNBC clips of McCain rallies, while unclear, appear to show two similar incidents.[31]

    Maine "dirty bomb" threatEdit
    On December 9, 2008, 29 year old James G Cummings, a wealthy white supremacist, was shot dead by his wife, 31 year old Amber Cummings in their Belfast, Maine home. When police arrived at the scene, they discovered components and instructions for making a dirty bomb, and notified the FBI, who sealed off the scene. The FBI discovered four 1-gallon containers of 35 percent hydrogen peroxide, uranium, thorium, lithium metal, thermite, aluminum powder, beryllium, boron, black iron oxide and magnesium ribbon as well as literature on how to build “dirty bombs” and information about cesium-137, strontium-90 and cobalt-60, radioactive materials. Child pornography was also found on his computer. Cummings had connections to various white Supremacist groups, including the US National Socialist Party. According to tradesmen who worked at the home, Cummings idolized Adolf Hitler and openly kept nazi memorabilia including flags displayed around the home. According to his wife, James Cummings was not happy that Obama was elected president, and planned to set the bomb off at his inauguration. Amber Cummings also claimed that her husband was frequently physically, mentally, and sexually abusive towards her and their daughter, citing this as her reason for the murder. Amber Cummings plead guilty to his murder, but was given a suspended sentence by Justice Jeffrey Hjelm, who ruled she would not face prison time due to "extenuating circumstances".[32][33]
     

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