DNC files copied locally, NOT hacked

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  1. camp_steveo

    camp_steveo Well-Known Member

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    gateway pundit
    the forensicator

    disobedient media

    If this is true, this changes everything. I am no computer scientist, so I will wait and see what the experts have to say about this.

    I'm sure everyone on the left here at PF will suddenly become computer experts and completely debunk this....lol
     
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  2. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    FAKE NEWS with no article
     
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    I'll agree with Ron this one is Fake until verified, very similar to all the collusion bs from the left.
     
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    click where it says gateway pundit
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    sounds like nonsense, considering today's technology

    this could have easily been done by outside hackers
     
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    This "bombshell" came out 2 days ago. Do we have another sources giving this any credibility? Like even Fox News' Sean Hannity, who would love to see anything back up his Seth Rich murder theory?
     
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    not even Sean Hannity cares about this story
     
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    19 gigs is a lot, it would have taken a long time to upload from the DNC server and there should be a telltale sign on the server if that happened - plus a DNC IT geek should have noticed it. But since the DNC refuses to turn over evidence of a crime they say was committed, then they are guilty until proven innocent, I mean, you do want to hold them to the same standards you hold Trump to, right?
     
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    Guilty until Proven Innocent, is the Fascist view of Justice.

    shame on you
     
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    camp_steveo Well-Known Member

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    So let me get this straight. hackers hacked the hacked data in order to cover up the original hack? You believe that but totally disregard this possibility?
     
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    the data was stolen by an outside hack
     
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    That means there is a spy locally in NYC or DC.
     
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    That is, until some of the Trumps started asking Russians for damaging info on HRC... I mean, that's not collusion, right?
     
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    Sounds like nonsense only to completely ignorant people who have no clue how IT technology works. If the DNC supporters had any clue in the first place, they wouldn't have lost tons of valuable data.

    Let IT experts irrefutably prove that there was not hack involved. Anyone with a modicum of knowledge about IT knows that no one hacked the DNC. Is that simple. To be able to learn, you need to open your mind unless you want to remain ignorant for the rest of your life.

    New Research Shows Guccifer 2.0 Files Were Copied Locally Suggesting DNC Not "Hacked By Russians"

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-...s-were-copied-locally-dnc-not-hacked-russians

    The Forensicator stated in their analysis that a USB drive was most likely used to boot Linux OS onto a computer that either contained the alleged DNC files or had direct access to them. They also explained to us that in this situation one would simply plug a USB drive with the LinuxOS into a computer and reboot it; after restarting, the computer would boot from the USB drive and load Linux instead of its normal OS. A large amount of data would then be copied to this same USB drive.

    In this case, additional files would have been copied en masse, to be "pruned" heavily at a later time when the 7zip archive now known as NGP-VAN was built. The Forensicator wrote that if 1.98 GB of data had been copied at a rate of 22.6 MB/s and time gaps t were noticed at the top level of the NGP-VAN 7zip file were attributed to additional file copying, then approximately 19.3 GB in total would have been copied. In this scenario, the 7zip archive (NGP-VAN) would represent only about 10% of the total amount of data that was collected.

    The very small proportion of files eventually selected for use in the creation of the "NGP-VAN" files were later published by the creators of the Guccifer 2.0 persona. This point is especially significant, as it suggests the possibility that up to 90% of the information initially copied was never published.

    The use of a USB drive would suggest that the person first accessing the data could not have been a Russian hacker. In this case, the person who copied the files must have physically interacted with a computer that had access to what Guccifer 2.0 called the DNC files. A less likely explanation for this data pattern where large time gaps were observed between top level files and directories in the 7zip file, can be explained by the use of 'think time' to select and copy 1.9 GB of individual files, copied in small batches with think time interspersed. In either scenario, Linux would have been booted from a USB drive, which fundamentally necessitates physical access to a computer with the alleged DNC files.

    The Forensicator believed that using the possible 'think-time' explanation to explain the time-gaps was a less likely explanation for the data pattern available, with a large amount of data most likely copied instantaneously, later "pruned" in the production of the Guccifer 2.0's publication of the NGP-VAN files.

    Both the most likely explanation and the less likely scenario provided by The Forensicator's analysis virtually exclude the possibility of a Russian or remote hacker gaining external access to the files later published as "NGP-VAN." In both cases, the physical presence of a person accessing a containing DNC information would be required.

    Importantly, The Forensicator concluded that the chance that the files had been accessed and downloaded remotely over the internet were too small to give this idea any serious consideration. He explained that the calculated transfer speeds for the initial copy were much faster than can be supported by an internet connection. This is extremely significant and completely discredits allegations of Russian hacking made by both Guccifer 2.0 and Crowdstrike.

    This conclusion is further supported by analysis of the overall transfer rate of 23 MB/s. The Forensicator described this as "possible when copying over a LAN, but too fast to support the hypothetical scenario that the alleged DNC data was initially copied over the Internet (esp. to Romania)." Guccifer 2.0 had claimed to originate in Romania. So in other words, this rate indicates that the data was downloaded locally, possibly using the local DNC network. The importance of this finding in regards to destroying the Russian hacking narrative cannot be overstated.

    If the data is correct, then the files could not have been copied over a remote connection and so therefore cannot have been "hacked by Russia."

    The use of a USB drive would also strongly suggest that the person copying the files had physical access to a computer most likely connected to the local DNC network. Indications that the individual used a USB drive to access the information over an internal connection, with time stamps placing the creation of the copies in the East Coast Time Zone, suggest that the individual responsible for initially copying what was eventually published by the Guccifer 2.0 persona under the title "NGP-VAN" was located in the Eastern United States, not Russia.

     
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    Explain how considering the information provided in the article.
     
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    Hmm that sounds familiar...
     
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    Your evidence of this is......
     
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    How deep down the rabbit hole the right-wing has fallen in their desperate attempts to take some of the ever increasing heat off of Trump. :D

    Do go on! I enjoy the chuckle every now and then. :D


     
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    More speculation based on what? Why should I trust this anonymous source and their analysis?
     
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  20. icehole3

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    with a good business internet connection you could download 19 gigs in several hours
     
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    no doubt the gatewaypundit will give this info to the fbi :)

    it is pathetic how rwers give russia more credence than us intelligence services
     
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    The DNC nor Crowdstrike would have noticed this?
     
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    The same "us intelligence services" that still have not had access to the server and are just going by what crowdstrike says? How does that simply logical statement make one "Russian"?
     
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    I didnt listen to Hannity yesterday, did you? I listened to a little bit of rush he was talking about the Don Jr. nonsense.
     
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    Oh, the liberals won't like this.
    They won't like it at all.
     

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