Was Hillary's loss result of campaigning in error?

How is it selfless to deny millions of people health care to give a huge tax break to billionaires? Since it defies common sense for these billionaires to invest that money into making things when few people are buying how will doing that help the country?

 

Do you mean Hillary? And how do you know she knew she was lying? Setting up a highly secure server in your own home is a challenge even for IT experts and Ms Clinton was not that and never claimed to be. It is known that Colin Powell and VP Pence had problems very similar to hers, but neither was running for President against a Party composed almost entirely of mendacious libelers so there was no investigation nor people calling for their heads.

 

I loved this question that was never answered by her in congress. What was she doing that she needed such servers? Judging by over 33 thousand deleted emails, it was something she wanted to hide.

 

Who cares?

She lost.

It's irrelevant.

The ongoing Trump Trainwreck is the FOCUS.

 

He's the one that brought it up, not me...

 

Oh I know, brother.

I certainly find nothing wrong to responding to the points as they are brought up.

But, just to veer back on topic, obviously Hillary's Campaign Effed-up majorly.

 

Yes, they did. They campaigned for every celebrity vote, and every California vote (which they would have won in the first place). Also, she assumed she'd win. Her arrogance washed down to her voters and they were convinced she'd win. Honestly, I was too. Which made the election that much more devastating to her voters. I don't know what was a bigger shocker...the Pats coming back from 28-3 in the 4th quarter or this election

 

Down the stretch, she was skipping days and Trump was holding multiple rallies in swing states.

Overconfidence killed her.

Not one rally in Wisconsin? WTF?

Get this, I was watching that SB with a big bet on the Pats.

Beating the spread (not taking the FG in OT) was Epic.

But, the big difference between the Pats comeback and Hillary was THIS:

Going into the game, the Pats were favored and WON.

Going into the Election, Hillary was favored and LOST.

 

Yea the pats were favored, but for Atlanta fans, being up 28-3 with 3 min left in the 3rd...I'm sure that was a shock they'll never forget. That would suck to be a Hillary fan and a Falcons fan. Rough year

 

Err...being Secretary of State of the United States? the most powerful nation that has ever existed, with more far-flung global interests than anyone has ever had? Hell, I'm surprised it was only 33 thousand.

Lets turn that question around. Who or what do you conservatives all seem to think she was betraying us to? Her lover Putin? Her religious leader in ISIS? The Lizard Men? What ?

 

How many other SofS setup private servers for their personal account while they were in office? I didn't realize that was so popular.

It's interesting that you say she did it because she's the SofS. Why did she apologize for doing it? Why did she put so much proprietary and classified information in jeopardy by removing it from secure servers and placing them on her own?

Your post makes absolutely no sense unless you support that information being hacked..

 

Oh man.

At least, as a big Pats (Brady/Belichick) fan I was 1-1.

But, yeah--Imagine having a huge bet on Atlanta.

The Falcons were already making parade plans, sizing their rings, and lining up their Kitty at the after-party.

Talk about Hella bummer.

 

I feel for them though. I'll never forget both giants superbowls where we HAD IT and blew it. Thanks a lot Welker and Hernandez. Lucky ass helmet catches...

 

Hell yes.

Brady could be 7-0 in SBs. If not for 2 of the greatest (luckiest) catches of All-Time.

But, then again, they stole one vs Seattle.

So, maybe Brady should really be 6-1.

That said, Hillary Effed-up in 2016.

 

It's probable that Hlllary was the first SoS to set up a private server. E mail itself is only about 20 years old as a common method of communication. I do know of two other high government officials that have done so, Colin Powell and Mike Pence, and the only reason I have heard they did it is that they had problems very similar to Hillary's but strangely nobody tried to arrest and prosecute these prominent Republicans

She apologized for doing it the way she did because it was a mistake. People do make them, especially with things that are being done for the first time ever.

She almost certainly didn't remove any info from the secure servers but just copied it. She put it on her own server for the same reason she had her own server, convenience. I believe she has stated several times that she believed her own server to be just as secure as the government server, a not unreasonable supposition when you consider that her private server was less known than the government server and thus under much less jeopardy.

Your post is the one that makes no sense, as is the whole basis of this attack on Hillary from the beginning. You will probably ignore this question again, as that is one of the commonest conservative tactics, but hope that even conservatives can sometime yield to rationality springs eternal, so I will repeat it. Who is it you suppose Hillary was trying to have hack her machine, (which didn't occur btw) her lover, Putin? her Muslim compatriots in ISIS? the Lizard Men? who?

 

No. Spilling ketchup on the counter while making lunch is a mistake. Deliberately setting up a private server for government work that's supposed to stay classified is willfully breaking the laws set up to keep them secure.

You know, I could copy the school's information and grading system onto my own server for the convenience. Now I never have to worry about our own district offices servers crashing again; I could keep on working even if their internet goes down. Sadly, I've just copied confidential information onto my own private account and am now in violation of - I dunno, maybe a dozen or so rules my district has regarding classified student information. And I'm just an elementary school teacher. I will admit you make a spirited defense of Hilla but that explanation wouldn't even work for a public school teacher; it shouldn't work for the SoS with far more valuable secrets to conceal than a child's discipline file, grades, and medical records.

The answer is, who CARES who was trying to hack her servers? It could have been any or all of the above that you listed, maybe a bored teenager who stumbled into it while looking for something to do, maybe the Russians, maybe a political operative, maybe the Mossad, or the Girl Scouts for all that it matters. The fact remains that they were deliberately placed IN a place without government oversight and fewer firewalls to protect it.

 

She may have been literally exhausted. She doesn't look very strong or physically fit to begin with, and she's not 35 years old. Add to that the bad road food and stress of flying around ... I couldn't do it.

 

Hillary's loss was Hillary!
No one else.
It was poor management.
It was giving up on some voters as Romney did.
The fix at the DNC.
An unremarkable record as a Senator and Secretary of State.
Disdain for straight, white men.

What part don't I have correct ?


It wasn't the Russians.
It wasn't Comey
It wasn't the DNC's fault. I mean it was Hillary's DNC and not she complains about its' ineptness.
It was Hillary!

Can we acknowledge that and move on?


Moi

r > g

Blame
Across an immense, unguarded, ethereal border, Canadians, cool and unsympathetic,
regard our America with envious eyes and slowly and surely draw their plans against us. ​

 

That explanation wouldn't work for a public school teacher just because you're a public school teacher, you're not the SoS who is supposedly at a somewhat higher level of trust and need to have the records at her disposal.

If you're going to attack people no matter whether any harm was done or not then why don't you support that we lock up Mike Pence and Colin Powell, two prominent REPUBLICANS who had problems very similar to Hillary's and were never investigated at all? Could it be because this is a difficulty often encountered by government officials and routinely handled by just telling them not to do it, rather than jailing half the ****** government for nothing?

Typical conservative BS, talk about "nothingburgers" indeed. It's perfectly okay for a known crook to sell us out to a foreign power but let a 70 year old woman get her emails messed up and it's off to Leavenworth with the harridan.

**** this, it's over and done, you cons have ****ed the country royally partially by screwing a good woman for no reason I can see. I'll let you have the last word if you want it and others can read it, I'm done here

 

Sure it does. I need to grade papers and have them returned quickly. I need to call parents up asap if their kids are failing. I too need to have the records at my disposal. I too need to know the names of their parents, their phone numbers, even health issues - perhaps they've been classified as ADD, or are Special Ed and no one told me (despite the fact that the SE teachers are supposed to tell us, fat chance of that.) Now what I CAN'T do is copy the records over and keep them personally on my own private, super-duper servers that the school doesn't know about. It's not MY information - it belongs to the school, more specifically the district and the state of California. It's their information - not mine. And yet, by copying it onto personal servers, they have just lost control of the information. I am in effect stealing their information for my own private use and under the terms of my contract can get fired for it. If I am bound by these rules, I would surely think the SoS should as well. In fact, the rules and punishment for violating them should be much harsher for her. You're arguing that the laws regarding the confidentiality of data and the protection of same within government servers is much tougher for an elementary teacher than for the SoS.

You know, the "He did it too!" argument isn't working here, anymore than it did for the kids I teach.

NO ONE has screwed Hillary in a very long time.

Bye Felicia.

 

Hillary's loss was due to an inept wanna be politician. She had no clue what the American people wanted. She had no message. She thought she was a shoe in, she was wrong. Bernie had a message and the DNC tried to shut him down.

 

For almost 20 years, the American working man in places like Iowa, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania... saw their jobs being sacrificed in the name of foreign policies they had nothing to do with.

That is like handing a man a **** sandwhich and expecting him to ask for seconds.

They threw it in the faces of Hillary and Obama last November and voted for Donald Trump.

The coal miners are not sitting are their butts any longer

 

Nothing can ameliorate the ineptitude of Hillary.

 

I see you learned a new word. Good for you.

It is good to see that you are capable of making a post w/o using some uber-lame meme.

But, yeah--Hillary's campaign "strategy" left a lot to be desired.

Carry on.

 

Hillary's campaign was lazy. She did not campaign in Iowa and lost it. She campaigned ilightly in other states she assumed were in the bag.

Trump's campaign was the 21st century version of a whistle stop tour with large crowds everywhere he went while the Hillary team was busy setting up the fireworks for her victory party.