Mueller Resorts to Extortion?

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  1. robini123

    robini123 Well-Known Member

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    Yes. But it does not mean or not mean that the Russian government was or was not behind the email.

    Anecdotal.

    Moot point as the investigation has not concluded. I will not make a claim of the positive or negative until the investigation is concluded and the findings are placed in the public domain for us all to review.

    Hyperbole.
     
  2. Borat

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    An email from an imposter not associated with the Russian government does mean that the email wasn't from the Russian government.

    That's the status today, "absence of evidence" which you've so readily admitted means that as of this moment, there is not a shred of evidence incriminating Trump in any wrongdoing.

    in your view it sure is, you are asking to prove a negative and thinking we won't notice after all :D
     
  3. robini123

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    Why do you label the man an imposter?

    I agree, but that does not mean that evidence does or does not exist.

    Spoken from a position of ignorance as the above bolded does not represent my actual view.
     
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    So, you think your financial life in amassing $1000 in net worth is as complicated as Trump's in amassing billions? It's been 1.5 years. No findings. How many people could have withstood that level of scrutiny in Billions of $'s of activity without a single finding? Pretty amazing ,,, which is why the constitution doesn't allow witch hunts. Mueller is well beyond his mandate and in violation of the law. He's got a team of Hillary supporters dying to give the criminal an excuse for losing an election she couldn't lose and all we have is a dead DNC operative and a dead witness to Clinton accepting money from China, Canada, etc. Where's the beef?
     
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    ?????????????????
    No findings????
    His casino was fined for money laundering.
    He had to pay because of the fraud of his "university".
    He has not released tax returns.
    What is with the 1.5 years? They have only begun to look - stay tuned....
     
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    Because she is a woman who claimed to represent the Russian government which she did not. People doing this are called imposters

    There is no evidence of any wrongdoing known to the public at this moment, not a shred. There currently is no evidence that such evidence has been discovered either. I doubt this is debatable.
     
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    Paste up this Snopes clarification. ;-)
     
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    Snopes, Politifact etc have all been discredited. They are all just alt.left sources. You need to find better sources.
    The Clintons have been thoroughly outed - they are well documented crooks.
    Even their friends and supporters know they are "contaminated"

    "We’re resigned to the Clintons focusing on their viability and disregarding the consequences of their heedless actions on others. They’re always offering a Faustian deal. This year’s election bargain: Put up with our iniquities or get Trump’s short fingers on the nuclear button.

    The Clintons work hard but don’t play by the rules. Imagine them in the White House with the benefit of low expectations.” THE NEW YORK TIMES, The Clinton Contamination, By Maureen Dowd, 7/6/16.
    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/10/opinion/sunday/the-clinton-contamination.html?_r=0

    Why pretend you do not know The Clintons are crooked? Was some kind of "Faustian deal" involved? ;-)
     
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    No, he did not. He famously failed to endorse Trump at the Republican National Convention. It would be fairly late in the election before Trump finally did endorse.

    Cruz isn't much more famous for his loyalty than Trump is (and Trump has no loyalty at all).

    Cruz won't be the first to defect. He knows that nobody will follow him. He's still the most distrusted man in Congress.

    Mitch McConnell holds the key. When he gets tired of Trump's stupidity, arrogance, and incompetent rush toward self destruction, McConnell is going to do the political calculation on whether to let Trump sink. It's his call.

    One word from McConnell and Trump is gone. It may take a while, but as soon as Mitch cuts bait, Trump's clock is counting down.
     
  11. PrincipleInvestment

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    Oh? I've mortgaged my own properties, should I destroy the records?
     
  12. PrincipleInvestment

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    I did serve in the military. Though why do I need to present my qualifications? I'm not interviewing for a job. This is a discussion board. This is a thread I authored, in the opinions & beliefs forum. Tell me your qualifications, and exactly why I should care about them.
     
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    "Anointed" ... yes, I can see Mueller being hailed by liberals as their newest messiah ...
     
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    Manafort sold his services to the highest bidder.


    Isn't that what all our treasonous elites have been doing?
     
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    There is nothing illegal about asking a suspect to confess to their crimes.

    Flynn might have already been singing like a canary to the Feds.

    Indictments only come at the END of the investigation. It isn't as though the BLOTUS crime ring are going around killing people.
     
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    Mueller has done nothing wrong so he has nothing to conceal!

    It is Manafort, et al who are trying to keep their crimes concealed from the authorities.
     
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    BZZZT Wrong!

    Past financial records can show a pattern of behavior in money laundering. It all goes to prove motive and ongoing criminal activity.
     
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    When the crime is money laundering then NOT following the money would be a failure to investigate the crime.
     
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    Little Donny jr admitted to violating that law in his own emails so he effectively provided the evidence of his own guilt!
     
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    Little Donny jr provided evidence of collusion and a violation of the Laws of the Land in his own emails. There is no longer any "absence of evidence" since it has been handed over by the criminal regime itself.
     
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    There is evidence that the source of the emails was a foreign national living in Russia and that the subsequent meeting included Russian nationals with direct ties to Russian government agencies. Furthermore one of those Russian nationals admitted to providing a folder of documents to the Trump campaign.
     
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    The only ones familiar with the probe are those that are doing the probe. Its not all that difficult to figure out.
     
  23. PrincipleInvestment

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    Mueller hasn't found anything for Manafort to confess to. Manafort hasn't been charged, not sure he's even been formally interviewed. Mueller needs something to coerce Manafort, he's not interested in convicting him, or solving some past financial crime that's yet to be discovered.
     
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    Manafort appears to have had a hand in the disappearance of funds from the Ukraine in 2014 and was involved in money laundering through Cypress in late 2009. Since Russian money laundering appears to be part of the motive for the hacking of the election it it pertinent to the investigation.

    Why is the extremist alt right so concerned about criminals who violate the law? Hard to claim that you support law and order when you are defending those who break it with impunity.

    FTR American citizens are required to report all overseas income in excess of $100,000 to the IRS the last time I checked. Manafort was dealing in millions of dollars. If he failed to report those earnings he would be guilty of tax evasion.
     
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    Typically when mobsters pressure witnesses, or influence their testimony by threatening expose some old skeletons, the prosecutor adds the charge of witness intimidation, or witness tampering. Mueller resoted to tactics that bear all the hallmarks of prosecutorial incompetence. He's a charlatan.
     

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