Mueller Resorts to Extortion?

Mortgages are money laundering schemes 30 yrs in duration? Fascinating.

 

Obviously you missed my post at the beginning of this thread.

A "threat" to "expose old skeletons" to the authorities is utterly MEANINGLESS given that Mueller IS the authorities!

You are erroneously conflating two entirely different concepts and coming up with a wilted salad of nonsense.

There is no "prosecutorial incompetence" happening.

 

We are talking about money laundering within the last decade here. Why did Manafort's Cyprus bank account receive a payment of $1 million and then split it up into two equal amounts of $500,000 each and send them out again the same day? Why has he refused to explain what those transactions were all about?

 

Nothing in 2009 is prosecutable. 2014 tax returns are subjects for IRS investigators. Mueller doesn't supercede the authority of agencies that have these activities under their purview. It's over reach.

 

That was then....like I said he endorsed after Trump became the Presidential Nominee.

So no link on the Conservatives abandoning Trump. That's what I thought. Both you and DT can't back up that play.

Well until McConnell does any of that. Its quite clear that the conservatives haven't abandoned Trump.

 

There is no statute of limitations when it comes to demonstrating a pattern of criminal behavior. The statute of limitations only applies to the extent of crimes that can be charged. The 2014 tax returns are within the SC's authority since the Rule of Law overrides all of the agencies of government.

 

No. Mueller is using the same tactic to elicit the same outcome. He's planning on threatening Manafort by placing him in legal jeopardy for past misconduct. The fact that Mueller is the prosecutor doesn't alter the intent of his actions, nor is Manafort any less the victim of coercion. Putting lipstick on this unscrupulous prosecutor, doesn't change anything, it only makes him a more attractive pig.

 

You are acting as though no prosecutor in the entire history of this nation has ever pointed out the consequences of criminal charges to those suspected of those crimes.

The fact that it happens all over this country on a daily basis because it is a common tactic used by law enforcement to obtain evidence and testimony about others involved in the crimes seems to be beyond the grasp of the extremist alt right.

Manafort is just an unindicted felon at this stage of the investigation if he is facing criminal prosecution. He can choose to face those charges or he can negotiate for lesser charges on the basis of what he has to offer.

Perhaps Manafort is more scared as to what the Russian mob will do to him than he is of doing hard time behind bars.

Either way it makes no difference to SC Mueller doing his job in accordance with the Law of the Land.

 

Overrides? Make it up as you go along ... Mueller is. He wasn't appointed as SC to the IRS. Mueller could pursue financial matters that are linked to the campaign, or perhaps took place during the campaign. He's desperate, and he's flailing, just as posters are flailing trying to excuse his behavior.

 

Yep they think they can turn Manafort. That wont happen. In the end if Mueller can come up with something. Manafort knows to play it like the Demos and take the 5th. Which leaves Mueller with nothing but innuendo.

 

Ironic since the only desperation and flailing is coming from the extremist alt right.

SC Mueller has the authority to examine tax returns to determine what, if any, funds were part of the Russian Collusion and what funds, if any, were part of the MOTIVATION for the Russian Collusion. Said motivation would be Russian Money Laundering via your BLOTUS's criminal enterprises.

 

Sure ... happens everyday. Doesn't make it OK. Cases are lost because of coerced testimony.

 

Manafort was only with the campaign a few weeks. He hasn't got anything to reveal. Mueller I think has already abandoned "Russia". He's looking to preserve his reputation, and gather fodder for a book deal. Comey did exactly the same thing. Two peas ...

 

Again alt right ... Flailing.

 

Pointing out the consequences of criminal charges does not equate to "coerced testimony". The unindicted felon has a choice to face the charges instead of agreeing to cooperate with the authorities.

 

Manafort "volunteered" to be on the campaign without being paid. Why would he do that unless he had a motive? What was that motive? Was he Putin's "controller" for your BLOTUS? Was he hoping for a pardon via your BLOTUS? A book deal means squat under RICO since all profits can be seized as restitution for the crime of money laundering.

 

I've not claimed a crime wasn't committed but instead that impeachment is a political, not a criminal, process.. A sitting president can't even be prosecuted for a crime and the Congress does not have the authority or the process for prosecution of a criminal act by a president. The House defines the "High Crime" in it's articles of impeachment and that "High Crime" does not need to be a statutory violation of the law. For example Trump's firing of FBI Director Comey was "legal" but Congress could consider that to be obstruction of justice although legally I don't believe the president can be prosecuted under the law for obstruction of justice. The President has the power to pardon but if Trump were to pardon Manafort or Flynn then Senate Republicans could consider that as an abuse of power that warrants removal from office.

There's certainly building evidence that the President has abused his powers as President in an effort to cover-up his dealings with the Russians and the only real issue is if the Republicans in the Senate are willing to continue to ignore all of Trump's lies about his connections with the Russians and his continuing attempts to shut down the investigation into the Russian involvement in the US election. Sessions first denied meeting with the Russians while a member of the Trump campaign. When evidence he'd met with the Russian ambassador surfaced he revised his statement to admitting he'd had two meetings but denied it had anything to do with the Trump campaign. When the evidence that the Russian ambassador had informed Moscow that the meeting were about the Trump campaign the White House has changed it's story again to claim the meetings weren't about the Russian government's efforts to corrupt the US election. The "lies" are constantly being revised as new evidence emerges. Did Manafort launder Russian money to fund the Trump election through PAC's? It appears that Manafort wasn't above doing that in the Ukrainian elections. .

Even the Republicans are tiring of the continuous lies coming from Trump and the White House and Trump's Russian connections, including the plans to build a Trump Tower in Moscow, all of which Trump has lied about and attempted to hide and cover-up are wearing the Congressional Republicans out. Behind closed doors the Republicans are considering whether to impeach and remove Trump from office and, as noted, it only requires 67 Senators to remove Trump from office.

Emin is the son of Araz Agalarov that had partnered with Donald Trump to build a Trump Tower in Moscow. Donald Trump Jr and Emin Agalarov were close personal associates and on a first name basis (as indicated in Goldstone's email). Donald Trump Jr and Emin Agalarov had become close associates in working together on the Moscow Trump Tower deal between Donald Trump and Araz Agalarov, Emin's father.

Of course President Trump is lying because he announced the deal was in the works to build a "Trump Tower" in Moscow and Araz Agalarov had announced his company had started working on that deal with Donald Trump in 2013.

https://themoscowtimes.com/articles/donald-trump-planning-skyscraper-in-moscow-29441

The acceptance and/or solicitation of anything "of value" from a foreign government source, such as damaging information on a political opponent, is expressly prohibited by our election laws. By even accepting the meeting to obtain the information that Trump Jr., Kushner, Manafort, and unquestionably Donald Trump knew was to be furnished from the Russian government was a violation of campaign laws.

There's no doubt that Kushner committed perjury on his security application. He failed to mention this meeting with the Russians with the sole intent of obtaining damaging information on Hillary Clinton that was being furnished by the Russian government as well as his failure to mention tens of millions of dollars in investments connected to financial dealings in foreign countries. Kushner has had to revise his security application repeatedly as information leaks out of information that is mandatory on the security application that he failed to previously include.

The evidence has also been building that Russian money, coming from the Russian mafia (under the control of Putin) has been funding Trump development projects going back the about 2005 or so after US banks stopped lending money to Trump because he's a horrible corporate executive and an extremely poor credit risk. There appears to be a connection between Russian mafia money being laundered and used for the construction of the Trump Soho hotel between 2006 and 2008 when Donald Trump Jr publically stated that the Trump Organization had extensive financial ties with Russia.

Donald Trump has a lot to hide when it comes to his dealings with the Russians, that he continues to deny exist although they've been proven, which provides him with significant motive to shut down the Russian investigation that will eventually reveal his shady business dealings that even if legal are unscrupulous and that are connected directly or indirectly with Vladimir Putin.

Far from being a "witch hunt" or "fake news" the Trump involvement with the Russians and his connections to Vladimir Putin, the most dangerous enemy of the United States, borders on treason and the investigation is the most important investigation by the US government in my lifetime.

 

Yeah that was validated.....Manafort was only with the campaign for 60days. Moreover, Greenwald and Eastmann the Constitutional Attorney. Have been talking about how the Russian narrative was set up by the Clinton Campaign. Which its clear Mueller isn't even looking at who was doing all this enabling and setting things in Motion.

 

How does that mitigate the over reach, or intimidation? Bogus charges must still be defended against, and damage to a persons reputation can produce economic hardships. If all Mueller can uncover are infractions Manafort commited years prior to the campaign, his service is no longer required. Time that he concedes he too has found no evidence of collusion, or coordination. The IRS can look into Manafort.

 

He volunteered to MAGA. Commendable. RICO / book deal? That's McCain-esque ... No idea what that implies. If you're referring to my mention of Comeys deal, I'm suggesting it's Mueller who's trying to put one together, not Manafort.

 

You are inventing "bogus charges" out of whole cloth. That Manafort was actively involved in Ukraine in 2014 when the funds "disappeared" means that he was obviously involved somehow. SC Mueller would not be using "bogus charges" if he does not have the evidence to take them to court. FTR Al Capone ended up in jail for tax evasion.

As far as collusion goes the evidence does exist in little Donny's emails and Manafort was engaged in that criminal activity too.

Time for the extremist alt right to move beyond denial and deal with their grief and disappointment that the "god-emperor" is just another criminal con artist with a fake tan.

 

Manaforts a dead end. Mueller hasn't found any evidence of collusion, or coordination. Even if Russian proxies offered dirt on Clinton repeatedly, so what. No political favers offered in return? All your left with is a better view of what goes on behind the curtain. Pompeo says Russians were involved in 2008 & 2012. Manafort worked on McCains campaign, and Mueller investigated then. These lobbyists know exacly where the lines are drawn. They stay within them and get paid well for doing it.

 

Manafort's career might at a dead end given that he will be spending time behind bars unless he agrees to work with the authorities.

Collusion evidence exists.

 

Manafort joined the Trump Campaign in March 2016 and didn't resign until mid-August 2016. That's five months. So how long would it take for Manafort to funnel an alleged $12.7 million in off-the-books funds from the Party of Regions (The Putin backed party of Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych) into funding of PAC's supporting the Trump Campaign?

It's a real laugh that defenders of Trump's lies and cover-ups if his Russian connections are now using a "book deal" as a pretext for an argument. Both Comey and Mueller both have distinguished personal careers worthy of a book deal without Donald Trump even existing. The only additional value that Trump would have to books by either of them is based upon the assumption that Mueller's investigation really does reveal that Trump's Russian connections were nefarious and that Trump really is nothing more than the unscrupulous con man that most Americans already know that he is.

It's laughable that there are those that defend one of the most dishonest and unscrupulous people in American history by trying to impugn the reputations of two of the most honorable men in American law enforcement history.

 

I'm not denying Manafort has ties to Ukrainian money, or Yanukovych. So what? You're back to flailing ... alt right. Trumps emails are useless. "I love it" comes no closer to translation as "quid pro quo" as the last smoking gun, "I hope you can let go" translates into obstruction. Flailing. Failing.