The GOP Is No Longer A ‘Conservative’ Party

For some time now I have been drawing a distinction between what I call GENUINE conservatives and the extremist alt right.

This article goes into great detail to explain this distinction and how the GOP ended up as what it is today. I will post relevant exerts below but the entire article is well worth reading.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry..._59767dd6e4b0e201d5776f8c?section=us_politics

The above article makes it clear that the GOP today is anything but conservative. Instead it is in the death grip of the extremist alt right who are intent upon radical changes that will effectively gut the values of our nation.

Speaking for myself I mourn the loss of the genuine conservatives who played a vital role in the checks and balances to ensure that liberalism has tempered with pragmatism. My genuine conservative friends no longer have a party that they can call their own any longer. They no longer have political champions who would stand up and be counted upon to do what was best for America and We the People when it became necessary to compromise and unite. Those genuine conservatives were "primaried" out of the GOP and no longer have any significant role to play.

So the purpose of this thread is to reach out in a nonpartisan manner to see if there is any way that the genuine conservatives can be saved from political extinction. I know that they still have staunch supporters because I see their posts all over PF. They are being disparaged because, as the article mentions above, because they have been forced into an alliance with the liberals who also oppose the BLOTUS and the extremist alt right hijacking of the GOP.

Now is the time for those genuine conservatives to do what they have always done in times of national crisis and that is to do what is best for America and We the People. Form the alliance with the liberals on the left because together We are stronger than the extremist alt right. Together we can put this nation back on the right track again. United we can form a more perfect union.

Yes, we will still have our differences but we have much more in common than what divides us. Neither genuine conservatives nor liberals want the present and the future that the extremist alt is trying to impose on us. Let's deal with this crisis and if it means starting the GGOP (the Genuine Grand Old Party) then we can do that too.

Please feel free to post your respectful opinions, criticisms, suggestions and comments on the OP.

TYIA

 

Regrettably, many Republicans in Washington are part of the establishment. There aren't enough Rand Pauls and Ted Cruzs out there. And all of the Democrats are part of the establishment.

This makes reforming/improving government impossible.

 

Neither the "establishment" nor "reforming/improving government" are topics for discussion in this thread. (That the extremist alt right that have hijacked the GOP consider them to be priorities is irrelevant.)

The issue here is that the genuine conservatives are now WITHOUT a party to call their own any longer.

 

The Republican Party stopped being conservative after WW2. They're a party of big government interventionist, globalism, and crony capitalist.

The democrat party ranges from Neoliberals like Obama, and Shillary Clinton, progressives who still claim to care about the working class, and full blown batshit crazy Marxist.

 

So there are no more "genuine conservatives" at all? They have all gone extinct already?

 

I never said there were no "genuine conservatives" left. I said the Republican Party is no longer conservative anymore.

 

Since the GOP is now owned by the extremist alt right where are the genuine conservatives who were evicted?

Have they all become Independents now?

 

Your pushing a nonsense narrative, so what's the point of asking questions if your mind is already made up?
Seems a bit disingenuous.

 

If you start from the perspective that having remade the nation into a socialist workers paradise, you cannot also then assume that conservatism would be expected to conserve that state. It's logically fallacious, laughable, really, to use the future horror state as the condition that a conservative minded US citizen would wish to defend. Utterly fail.

 

The Republicans might not bad as conservative, but the GOP still is conservative. It's why I left. I'm not conservative.

 

You agreed that the GOP is no longer conservative so what is disingenuous about asking you where the genuine conservatives went?

 

Care to elaborate on what definition of conservative you are using for the GOP?

In the OP I refer to what I call genuine conservatives who put We the People ahead of party partisan politics when the need arose.

Does that describe you?

 

Funny. Of course the straw man was invented in your OP. Perhaps you could address that? I doubt you will. Regardless, your thread fails.

 

I haven't seen a major shift away from conservatives. Sure there's extremists, but I'm not talking about them. Maybe it's because I'm younger than a lot of people here, but I still find plenty of conservatives making up the GOP. Not that there's anything wrong with that, I'm just not one. I thought I was conservative growing up, but I'm not.

 

You said that you left because of the GOP conservatives. Who would they be? Can you name any who are elected to Congress?

 

Na.. Conservatives aren't about to defend the future horror state. Dismantling the future horror state doesn't suddenly remake folks who are conservative as rabid radicals? it's laughable on it's face. There is no straw man here vice the one you yourself created. So, if you feel you must post elsewhere given the illumination of your own standards.....

 

I think conservatives have much more in common with the alt-right than with Progressives.

The Alt-right doesn't call us stupid or deplorable.

If you want to court the Conservatives, try being a little kinder and more thoughtful.

 

The Republican Party has always been divided between moderates and conservatives (Ford vs. Reagan, etc.). There's always a struggle for power between the groups.

Moderates talk conservative to get elected, but they vote with the establishment in Washington. It frustrates conservatives.

 

The extremist alt right denigrates any Republican who does not support their radical agenda as RINO's or "the establishment".

Do you consider that to be a "little kinder and more thoughtful"?

 

The OP doesn't seem to grasp that for every action, there is a reaction. The election of Trump is proof of that.

 

You are erroneously conflating "establishment Republicans" with genuine conservatives.

Not the same group at all.

Genuine conservatives have left the party because it has abandoned it's values as far "conserving" what is best for this nation.

The "establishment Republicans" are selling out the national parks for oil drilling and fracking.

Genuine conservatives are opposed to desecration of these national treasures.

 

Apropro of nothing?

 

So you speak for all "genuine" conservatives now?

 

I've been a Republican since I was 18 back in 1980. I know the party pretty well. Over the years, not many people have left the party. But of those people who did leave the party, many (most?) became libertarians.

 

Not speaking for them at all!

Just reiterating what happened to drive them away from the GOP!