Is taxation a form of slavery?

What say you? Is taxation a form of slavery? I thought this could be an interesting discussion. Let's try to keep things civil and just talk about it and discuss it and try to understand where the other folks are getting their ideas from when it comes to taxation. I do actually think it could be considered a form of slavery, however I realize that we really cannot have a functional government in this day and age without some kind of taxation. I do feel as if we are way overtaxed, and that our government spends the money without a thought or a pause. They have pockets to line you know!

Please discuss.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taxation_as_slavery

Taxation as slavery is the belief that taxation results in an unfree society in which individuals are forced to work to enrich the government and the recipients of largesse, rather than for their own benefit.

Historically, the earliest and most widespread form of taxation was the corvée, which can be traced back to the beginning of civilization. The corvée was state-imposed forced labour on peasants too poor to pay other forms of taxation (labour in ancient Egyptian is a synonym for taxes).[1]

In her book, American Patriots, journalist Gail Buckley wrote, "In British eyes, the American colonies existed only for the benefit of the mother country, but Americans saw any form of taxation as slavery."[2] Anarchists are some of the foremost proponents of the argument that taxation is equivalent to slavery. The International Society for Individual Liberty has made this claim,[3] as has Bureaucrash,[4] which refers to Social Security as "social slavery."[5] George Mason University professor Thomas Rustici uses two hypothetical anecdotes to illustrate this point. In the first, Sam Slime mugs a person for £50. In the second, Sam Slime votes for a politician who taxes a person in order to redistribute £50 to the "disadvantaged" Slime. Both examples involve the use of force. However, the second scenario is arguably worse, since through the state, Slime is now empowered to repeatedly take others' money, thus putting them in a condition of slavery. Leo Tolstoy argued that taxation of labor is one of three stages of slavery (the other two being land slavery and personal slavery).[6]

 

Taxation is the price paid to live in a society that recognizes and endeavors to protect the inhabitants' Natural Rights to life, liberty and pursuits of happiness. Where it becomes a form of slavery is when it's unequally applied.....when one inhabitant is systematically compelled to pay millions of dollars a year to have their life, liberty and pursuits of happiness recognized and protected, while another pays virtually nothing.

 

No, taxation is not slavery. Some seem to believe it is though...and I'm not sure why. It could be a hatred of government (which is irrational, especially in a modern democratic society having capitalism as an economic system) or a lack of understanding on what a modern society actually is and how it functions.

 

Yea...those poor enslaved rich folks huh?

Jesus...do you think before you post?

 

Those that hate libs, say WE LIBS should live by our beliefs, BEFORE expecting right wingers to do likewise.

Can we expect YOU to also live your beliefs? Stop using all that is taxed into existence?

 

Well, I don't think that all forms of taxation are a form of slavery, but some most definitely are. Let's just look at how the government is. If they can't get a piece of your pie, then they will make it illegal.

 

So, I guess you want things taxed for, to be dispensed by vending machine? You will PURCHASE the things that are OK to tax for?

You don't want to fund anything YOU cant use? Which things are YOU ok with?

 

There is also such a thing as being OVERTAXED or better yet, Taxed Enough Already! I'll bet you REALLY hate that one, huh?

 

I just want to know which items you are ok with. I am surmising they are things you use anyway. Which would tend to show you are selfishly wanting to deny all others any funding.

 

https://taxfoundation.org/what-are-payroll-taxes-and-who-pays-them/

 

I am okay with taxes funding things that are to EVERYONE's benefit. I am okay with taxation as long as it is fair taxation with fair representation.

 

I fully realize why I must pay taxes for societies' greater good and to maintain my/our freedom. The fact that I would lose my freedom for not paying taxes in the amount society dictates could be viewed as a form of slavery.
The fact that a percentage of the taxes I pay goes to the enrichment of others is a form of servitude.
If my tax bill was reduced by 10% wouldn't that increase my ability to continue in my pursuits of happiness.
I have no hatred of the government.

 

OK, then what are those things? None that are designed to benefit less than EVERYONE? Say, such as , taxes forgone to get TRUMP businesses into a state for instance?

 

List the things you are OK with.

 

With all respect , I think this general idea is just rhetorical masturbation

Pretty much anyone reading this posting could pick up and move to the wilds of Alaska and be entirely self-sufficient and free of the government


This is a simple and indisputable fact... A fact that is entirely inconsistent with the idea that any of us are slaves. The simple fact is that slaves do not get to the side where they live in the degree of their slavery Ergo, none of us are slaves to government taxation m

 

As a US citizen, you reap the benefits this Country provide you (roads, highways, national defense, welfare if needed), if you don't want any of this, you are welcome to denounce your citizenship and go live in nature, somewhere or a Country with lower taxes or no taxes. NO-ONE is forcing you to stay here and by staying here, you are giving your consent.

The government is OURS. I'm tired of this BS of viewing government as some dictatorship, monarchy or some alien organism that we do not not control. The people that run the government are people WE ELECT. WE elect senators every 6 years, WE elect representatives every 2 years and WE elect the president every 4 years. This may sound crazy to you, but if we wanted to, WE COULD ABOLISH GOVERNMENT. All we have to do is get together, elect people that want government abolished and it will happen, we could even get rid of constitution or pass an amendment not to pay taxes. There is nothing the Federal government can do unless the people in the military take over the government and though force take control of the Country. IT'S OURS, THE GOVERNMENT ANSWERS TO US!

Why won't this happen? because society will never want this! this makes you a minority and you are free to leave the American society.

 

The crazy thing is, many right wingers are NOw behind Huckabee's call to have the STATE LEGISLATURES choose our senators for us.

They are a little confused, me thinks.

 

Constitution grants Congress the authority to tax the people to pay for stuff necessary for the common good.

 

Do you resent the fact that SOME taxes benefit YOU more than others, or that property taxes funding schools are levied on those without children???

Paying taxes is a patriotic PRIVILEGE making us meaningful components of a great country.

And, we will NEVER put a stop to government waste until we remove the convenient distraction of partisan differences.

 

Is childhood slavery? Is obedience to the government slavery? Is our corporate-run world slavery?

 

I have a hypothetical I want to ask ?
If per say, all wages equal and we within 5 years got the point where 99.5% of Americans made 40K a year. And the other 150,000 of them made 40M a year and each of those had 40B in the bank. Do you still feel that an Equal 30% rate os fair for all ?

Obvious you know this is about what we have now. It is impossible for a 40K a year person to ever catch the rich guy. Now, from 1946 - 1984 it wasn't impossible and a poor guy could work, save his way into the next class, and up and up... One reason because he could compete, One corp. didnt control prices and if someone wanted to sell the steel the US Steel was selling for too much, he could do that. Those days are gone except for the extreme exception. Of course, those exceptions are always put out front by some media as in " he can do it, so can you" They never tell you about the heads they cut off, people they ignored, or how they cheated to get there...
GoPro owner comes to mind... Slick salesman who now draws an enoremous salary off of a failing business that went Public on a whim because the investment bankers could force 401 mutual funds to load the shares and scam consumers. But, that is all legal and on the up n up... It is a joke on the working class... Just like many of these one off Public corps. with one product...twitter type... worthless of the future but I bet, somewhere, it is in your portfolio, you just dont know it is part of that mutual fund at .002%

 

You're going to have to dumb that down for me.

 

Are road, bridges, sewers, police, public schools, armies and navies free.

 

In a way it is. Yet in society, taxation is a necessary evil. It is pure evil when it gets out of hand in the hands of tax and spend liberals.

 

you do realize no-one is forced to pay taxes right?