You are either against the white supremacists, or with them

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  1. gophangover

    gophangover Well-Known Member

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    By not condemning the KKK and Neo-Nazis, Trump and his followers have made it clear that they are with them. After what this country and the world went through during WWII, Trump and the alt-right have spit on all those that died in that war.

    Trump continues to destroy the foundations of America.
     
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    No. get lost. The world is not black and white regardless of how much you want it to be. 1st amendment protects ALL. Not just speech you think it does. If you cherish freedom as much as you're perceived to, you would understand this.

    I'm not a fan of trump, but what you're advocating for is no better than the supremacists themselves.
     
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    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Free speech at a peaceful rally cannot be tolerated if you don't like the message. Got it. The new fascist left.
     
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    WAN Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The US was wrong for having gone to war with Germany.
     
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    Much as I dislike Trump and white supremacist groups alike, I don't think this black-and-white mentality is really healthy. Then again I'm of the opinion that seeing neo-Nazis anywhere is automatically a bad sign.
     
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    Germany declared war on the U.S. first in WWII, a few days after we declared war on Japan following Pearl Harbor.
     
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    WAN Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I am just saying that the US and Germany are like "brothers". They are both made up of mostly white people. They shouldn't be going to war with each other, or at least try very, very hard not to. If they ever want to go to war with some nation, they should choose a nation that's made up of people belonging to other races. In fact, wasn't there someone really high up who said (paraphrased) that the US should drop the atomic bomb not on "civilized" nations (read: white), but on a nation like Japan.
     
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    So you believe the US should have stood by and done nothing or even helped Germany wipe out the Jews and Slavs of Europe?
     
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    WAN Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I think there is debate on Holocaust and other similar things. What really happened, the extent to which these things happened, who were targeted...etc.
     
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    The president can condemn a set of beliefs without violating the rights of those who hold them.
     
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    I don't think he was suggesting shooting the messenger. I think he was suggesting shooting the message.
     
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    I think this is the first time I've ever agreed with you.
     
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    I hope this is a joke.
     
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    Jews and Slavs most definitely were. Hitler's Germany had a stated goal of ridding the world of Jews and other "subhumans".

    And you believe America should have stood by and let them be murdered.
     
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    There is no debate. I've been to Auschwitz.
     
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    I am not with them or against them. I accept they exist. I do not feel compelled to condemn or cure them.
     
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    no, the UK and USA are like brothers.

    and the USA and Canada.

    Nazis declared war against Britian so we had to defend them
     
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    No joke. Although I want to clarify that I am NOT saying a white country should just casually attack a non-white country. I am saying that for a majority-white country like the US to go to war with a country like Germany, it's fratricide.
     
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    You were alive during WW2?
     
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    dude, you support the Nazis and say you want to be one.
    your views on the truth of the Holocaust are null & void
     
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    Us was happy to trade with germany after they already took over france so i doubt that that was the reason

    That sayd cant deny the holocaust but could make a case for the amount of actual victims ( wich seem to be dropping every few years)

    Personally i think the russians suffered far worse then the jews eitherway in that war and in 20th century in general
     
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    I do not agree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to be ignorant, and say it.

    disclaimer: This does not, in any way, make me complicit in your ignorance, nor does it imply that I condone it. Freedom, baby.
     
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    Trump did condemn it and he rightfully said that there is hatred on many sides. Because there is, there is just as much racism and bigotry on the left as there is on the right. All you have to do is look at the New Black Panther Party and you will see what I am talking about.
     
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    Literally every historical paper, documentary, photo evidence, witness testimony and memorial there is all the proof one needs.
     
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    I am not saying that Holocaust didn't happen. I am just saying that we should let people debate about it.
     

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