You are either against the white supremacists, or with them

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  1. Smartmouthwoman

    Smartmouthwoman Bless your heart Past Donor

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    Apples and oranges. Sex with children is illegal. Believing whites are superior is not illegal.
     
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    WAN Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You are free to talk about stuff that you think is important. However, I hope you extend the same right to other people who disagree with you. If someone wants to debate about any aspect of Holocaust, he should be allowed to do so.
     
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    By his messages I seriously doubt he feels the same way towards you.
     
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    Fascism takes many forms. His brand is most common. Freedom trumps facism, always. I will fight for his, even as he will fight to take mine away.
     
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    Sadanie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    People who come to a PEACEFUL rally do not come carrying guns and arm to the teeth.

    They do not commit acts of terrorism, and they do not dirty the memory of one of their victim.
     
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    that "debate" is only in the minds of jew haters and neo-nazi apologists. Zundel (ding dong the scum is dead) and the gang were nothing if not intellectually dishonest, nazi supremacists who worshipped Hitler's bowel movements.
     
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    Maybe they did this because they anticipated that there would be leftists, who very often resort to violence.
     
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    Youre nutz, he did condemn violence on all sides.
     
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    I don't think the white racist crowd behaved worse than BLM have behaved. In fact, BLM have trashed cities and engaged in some pretty serious violence, but they have never been condemned the way these white guys are. I see a double standard here.

    Not defending the white groups, but pointing out what I see.
     
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    He did condemn them.
    "All sides"
    Your accusation here is nothing but blind, frothing hyper-partisanship.
     
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    Absolutely! As long as it is factual and not made up ill-informed hysteria.

    Atheism is about NOT believing in a god or magical thinking, so this once again falls under the umbrella of ill-informed hysteria.

    Only a "snowflake" would believe their beliefs, if made public, would not be countered.
     
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    America stood by while Stalin killed 50 million, and while Mao killed 60 million people.
     
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    You fault the permitted rally goers for responding to the violent left?
     
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    "Either you are for us or against us" is always a stupid demand.

    Generally, my response is I don't give a damn about it either way. I have my own life and own concerns to deal with.

    A crazy guy murdered and hurt people with a car. Put him to death is my opinion of that. As for the marchers and protesters? They were all acting pointlessly and stupidly, trying to be relevant in irrelevancy. Generally, I don't like any protesters as they get in people's way, tend to be rude, have stupid mob mentality, block traffic and are mostly petty people trying to gain 15 seconds of fame by ridiculously exaggerating the event as time passes, putting themselves into some heroic and martyr role.

    If a person wants to believe s/he is superior because of his/her race? Whatever, I don't care. People who claim they are victims because of their race? I don't accept self-pity excuses.

    The Democrats and MSM will try to drum up as much noise, attention and future violence of this, and tens of millions of people will pretend this is some great crisis and has something to do with them, when it has nothing to do with them or their lives whatsoever.

    Stand in a street and you might get hit by a vehicle. That is the lesson again to be learned. If you are going to waste a day annoying people and being loud and ranting, stay on the sidewalk. Murder someone with a car and you go to prison. This all is really simple rules to understand. Stay on the sidewalk. Don't murder people with a car. What is there not to understand?
     
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    Knowing the BLM and "antifa" crowds might show up, and their penchant for violence -- why not?
     
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    Yes. Let us not forget how the media in particular were 180 degrees different about BLM and 0bama's failure to speak out against them. But now they're suddenly very concerned about Trump's response to these white guys, who are also given some pretty nasty labels. Kind of sad to see. I don't want our news being so biased and apparently out to shape our thinking. They're supposed to inform, not indoctrinate.
     
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    You are going to fight this by posting on a forum?

    I would not fight for someone's right to be a fascist. It would take a lot for me to fight for someone.

    Seriously, if a person is going to get into a mob situation and start ranting things that person rationally knows will inflame people I would not intervene to protect that person - whichever side that person is on. If a person goes looking for trouble and finds it, that is not my problem or risk.

    Yes, I support free speech and this all went violent because the Democrat Police Chief suspended the constitution, pushing the marchers who had a permit to march in the park directly into the counter protesters, then withdrew his police riot squad deliberately to create violence on behalf of the Democratic Party and the Democrat governor in a tough re-election campaign. Personally, I believe the police chief should be charged with federal criminal violation of civil rights. The marchers had a constitutionally protected right - and even had obtained a government permit to do so on that land.

    There is never rationality and always danger in mobs, which is what mass demonstrations are. If a person goes looking for trouble sometimes they find it - and now how they wanted it to be. Anything can happen in a mob setting.
     
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    Obama NOW refuses to condemn any specific group and, of course, the MSM is praising him for it.
     
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    What do you think, specifically about the Holocaust, is open for debate.
     
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    In all of this is forgotten the fact the reason there was any violence at all is the presence of BLM and "antifa" groups, intent on interrupting an otherwise peaceful protest.
     
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    No one - no one - ever made any mention of Trump being a racist until he announced for the GOP nomination.
    It's -really- hard to take you people seriously.
     
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    You people without the ability to communicate in complete thoughts (ie, must answer a paragraph at a time)... are irritating. Please excuse me for ignoring your attempt to respond. :bored:
     
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    So are glad he is gone too.
     
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    Yea,,,you are defending them
     

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