The end of freedom of expression online:

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  1. Mac-7

    Mac-7 Banned

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    Google is the #1 search engine but not the only one

    We are still free to choose another provider and there is nothiing the leftists can do to stop that

    But the trend is to control speech in America, the UK, Canada and Europe using government and private companies

    And the targets of suppression are conservatives
     
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  2. Jazz

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    Tell me, who is right and left in America?
     
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    Perhaps these so called 'conservatives' are misbehaiving too badly to not be censured.

    Or, in some cases, beaten to death with hammers and without empathy or mercy.

    Like the good old days before right wing turds became politically corrected SJWs in order to protect nazis.
     
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    They are only stating their opinions
     
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    That Jews should be crammed into lit ovens and white girls should be driven over.

    Wonderful opinion forming abilities there, from these 'conservative' heritage enthusiasts.
     
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    I think the word choice of the right is always amazing ...

    These pages you called "Conservative" do not coincide with the last muck of Holocaust deniers, Jews haters, racists and other righty Nazi scum?

    If not, then everything is OK ... but if it is just around these muck sides, then I can only laugh about the alleged restriction of freedom ... if Google will really do... and say, that is overdue!

    Just this scum is just as bad as the scum of ISIS & Co., because they also make terror and operate brainwashing of people with the last, but unfortunately cunning trash! It is precisely this garbage that wants to abolish precisely this freedom in principle and rape the constitutional right to Freedom of Speech!
     
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    Only the KKK and Neo nazi's were saying that

    Most Southerns do not see it that way

    And the guy who drove the car isn't even from the south
     
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    Goll dang -- you right wingers are hilarious.

    Thanks for the chuckles.
     
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    And if they exclude other groups that may go against their opinions such as LGBT, Muslims, the NRA etc, would that be OK?
     
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  10. Jazz

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    Last night I went onto an Israeli news source. A little note sprang up, roughly telling me, "just a moment while we register your IP address"... (two little red round circles started blinking)... "o.k., you may go now!"
    Scary!! MOSSAD is watching me!
     
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    I think I'm gonna express my freedom at the movies tonight.....FIRE!!!!
     
  12. Plus Ultra

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    Damore got fired for revealing Google isn’t as diverse in their hiring as they’d like us to think, and the facts support his claim. Google doesn’t hire many women or blacks. We don’t know much about their ideological bias in hiring, but what we do know suggests they have an inclination to hire lefties. This is presumably legal, political orientation is not a “protected class” subject to any legal protections, but when you’re such a major force in such a major media this sort of discrimination is problematic.
    This is true, the big internet companies ought to be effectively and verifiably neutral, they clearly aren’t and evidently don’t think they need to be.
     
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    Because they aren't censoring. It is their search engine. They have always had policies on what sorts of results they are willing to show.
     
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    You mean the AMERICAN right to freedom of speech, don't you? That right does not exist in Germany.
     
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    Social Media sites/companies generally don't tolerate extremism. They "censor" ISIS and the like as well. They don't care whether you're liberal or conservative, as every intelligent and reasonable person will easily recognize.
     
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    Anyone can say anything they like at any time, anywhere. The only considerations are desire and consequences.

    You're free to write about a plan to assassinate Trump but it's illegal and you'll get your nuts squeezed. A German likewise can nazi salute in public but they'll probably be arrested because it's illegal, and being efficient Germans that's probably when the moron's arm is about half way up their chest for the first time. You both do not enjoy full freedom of speech.
     
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    I think alt-right websites are ranked too high in search results and it would not be too problematic, if these sites are less visible on Google. There would be less traffic without infringing on their free speech rights.
     
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    Funny how we let you guys spill your guts and we have good banter over it. Think what the danger can be if Google has their way. I really want to know who is writing dangerous crap on the internet so that the NSA or any other agency monitoring can have a heads up. What would be more worrisome, some person on the internet spouting hate or some clandestine operation that no one knows about ?
     
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    As does Mr. Pence & most of the other republican males when they try to regulate a women's vagina. ;)
     
  20. Plus Ultra

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    This is the SPLCs “hate map”: https://www.splcenter.org/hate-map I looked up some of the groups, a few I could tell just by their names probably were racists, I found dozens of Baptists, Jewish, Christian and Muslim groups (seems SPLC doesn’t like any religion). SPLC has a brief description of the group, but when you search for some their own descriptions are very different. There are 917 of these “hate groups” on the SPLC map, find one near you and let us know if you ever heard of it before, have any friends or neighbors who know of it.

    As a conservative Catholic I was intrigued by their hate category "Radical Traditionalist Catholics" which according to SPLC:
    Personally I liked the mass in Latin, it is a matter of historical record the Romans executed Christ, but it was Jews who sentenced him to death.
     
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    If the "Right" would stay away from blatant racism and ridiculous tinfoil hat conspiracy theories, then maybe Google could let them be.

    But, if the RW is going to waste bandwidth on Racism and Tinfoil Hats, I do hope that Google keeps them off the front page.
     
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    Those making the case that Google is engaged in censorship prohibited by the First Amendment, and therefore needs to be sued, need to make the case that it is a state actor. Is it?

    For example, the First Amendment states that “[c]ongress shall make no law” infringing upon the freedoms of speech and religion. Because of this requirement, it is impossible for private parties (citizens or corporations) to violate these amendments, and all lawsuits alleging constitutional violations of this type must show how the government (state or federal) was responsible for the violation of their rights. This is referred to as the state action requirement.

    https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/state_action_requirement
     
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    I was trying to google this thread and couldn't find it! LOL!!!

    I started a thread about nerd nationalists. We are coming for you. Any Trumpers who want to make a phone call had better hurry while your phones still work.

    Google is a private company. This isn't China. You will just have to start a nut wing Google. Maybe call it Ga Ga.
     
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    It's really too bad most nerds are liberals, huh. ;)
     
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    I wish Google would adopt a policy more like Tor's, or what Cloudflare's CEO wishes he had after banning the "Daily Stormer".
     
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