Can Someone Please Explain to me What White Privilege is?

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  1. Smartmouthwoman

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    Your parents went to all white schools because thats how it was back then... not because they were 'privileged.' Black schools in the same district taught the exact same curriculum and both schools had National Honor Society students and graduated some brilliant young people who went on to be great producers in our society. Exactly the same results as schools today. Kids who want to excel will excel, regardless of their circumstances. Race has been used as an excuse for failure too long. Especially by guilt ridden white folks.


     
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    That's was fun, but the only aspect of that skit that is worthy of serious discussion--and I can't help but find this somewhat telling--is that part of his process for "experiencing White Privilege" was to change into a nice suit, and speak with coherent and intelligent grammar.
     
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    But you would see it as a privilege if you were affected by it.

    For example, one particular privilege I am beginning to be aware of is that of youth. There is inherent, yet subtle discrimination against those who are over 55 in the workforce. By no means is this sort of discrimination as overt as racial, but it exists nonetheless.

    By it's nature, those who have the privilege didn't do anything to get the deference they automatically receive. It is a perceptual bias.
     
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    None of that is privilege. Public education is free, and the quality of that education is determined by parental support, not the school itself (as all public schools work to a standard).

    Your parents CHOSE to play educational games with you, tell you stories about history, and keep you interested in books etc .. all of that is free, and a choice.

    Black Americans, just like Chinese Americans, can do exactly the same thing and produce productive and well educated children .. if they want to. The Chinese want to.
     
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    My white privilege consists of a dad who didn't go past the 8th grade, a mom who completed 12th grade, dad was a welder and mom worked in a laundry. They lived all their lives together and the 5 in my "white privilege" family at times had no heat in the 3-room apartment we rented, I went to bed hungry, and we had no automobile. My "white privilege" afforded me a used bicycle and from that I took a newspaper route and started buying my clothes because I was embarrassed to go to school in "white privilege" hand-me-downs. I graduated high school and my "white privilege" allowed me to join the Navy. I discharged at age 21 and my "white privilege" got me a job at minimum wage. I learned a trade by working all hours and studying my trade. I married and had a son who is successful in his life. My wife and I have been married for 53 years. We worked hard and became financial secure and retired at age 55. I feel so lucky that I had so many privileges that are not available to all :)
     
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    Black people don't wear suits or speak in a coherent and intelligent manner?
     
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    I just did.
     
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    Plenty of white peoples' grandparents didn't go to school at all, much less a 'good' school.
     
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    Which only goes to show that all people, regardless of their race, can experience and understand discrimination and prejudice.

    Therefore, it'd be unfair to insist born into such a system be required to personally compensate for the rift.
     
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    Yes, you did, and schools were desegregated in 1954. Do you have an examples that haven't already been addressed legally?
     
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    Ask Murphy. I've only just observed that he considered it important enough to include it as a part of the transformation.

    I didn't write the script.
     
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    Unlikely, since it hasn't been a thing since last century.

    Unfortunately for those who hate equality (Progressives), it actually exists now.
     
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    What do you think the word "priviledged" means? In any case, I'm not talking about my parents' privilege. I'm talking about mine.

    They had the same curriculum. But they were underfunded, understaffed and underperforming. Of course great people came out of them despite that fact! But this is not about the great students. It's about average people like me. I had the privilege to attend a great University. Most of my black contemporaries whose parents weren't allowed in those schools, did not because they didn't have the advantages that I had.


    I think that the problem has been ignored by too many. Especially by white folks who find it an "inconvenience" to at least undo some of the damage. These are the only ones who might (or should) feel "guilt". Especially since they keep finding ways to rationalize it. Myself, I feel no guilt. But I also see nothing wrong with Universities granting an extra handful of scholarships to black people who didn't have the privileges that I enjoyed.
     
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    No they can't! They couldn't chose to play those games because they didn't have the proper education my parents acquired. They didn't have the opportunities. It was my family's privilege, not theirs Jim Crow laws prevented that.
     
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    So, you feel blacks are naturally UNprivileged because they were born black?

    Hmmmm, never thought of it like that. I thought we were equal. Silly me.
     
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    Well, if that were all that were being asked by some people, more people would be willing to address the issue, whatever bits and pieces may be left of the problem.

    There are many people, however, who would demand a lot more than that.
     
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    Of course! What does that have to do with my post? The issue is not white peoples' grandparents who, for whatever reason, didn't attend these schools. It's grandparents of black children who were forbidden from attending these schools.
     
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    At it's base, it simply means majoritarian privilege. The majority of any society is going to define what "normal" is in that society. Being Han in China is enjoying the privilege of the majority, but being Uyghur isn't.

    Of course the people who use terms like "white privilege" unironically mean something totally different. The mean that society has a special class that gets treated like gold (whites) and everyone else gets boot stomped.
     
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    What does that have to do with anything. Grandparents of Asians didn't even have high school to attend. They came to this country with no or very little English, no money and yet they outperform native born Americans in education and income.
     
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    Jim crow is a ludicrously bad argument for white privilege.

    First of all it was localized in select areas it was not nationwide. Second it ended a long time ago and it is not an excuse for ongoing problems.

    Many whites did without good education and simply drove their kids to seek better education and better lives and it worked. No one blamed anyone else but simply climbed the ladder./

    The notion that a person fails because their grandparents had a lack of opportunity it just stupid
     
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    we've already addressed this issue. Any black person whose parents went to school after 1954 should not be suffering from the effects you mention. Any examples that we haven't already addressed?
     
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    The SCOTUS decision was in 1954. Desegregation didn't actually occur until the 1960s I don't know what you mean by "legally". I gave an example that shows that the privileges did not end either with the SCOTUS decision, or with the actual desegregation of schools. The privilege carries on to this day, as my case shows. And things like granting a handful of extra scholarships to black students is just a minimal way to try to ameliorate the situation. But the right screams "bloody murder!" because of it.
     
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    Huh? What do you mean by this?
     
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    I find it completely absurd to think that, even before 1954, black schools weren't giving students enough of an education for them to have the opportunity to enjoy educational board games.
     
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