Why does everyone hate the white nationalist cause?

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  1. Brewskier

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    Fence sitting is lame.
     
  2. Just_a_Citizen

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    Who is sitting on a fence?

    You see me right in the thick of this bullshit... Don't you? Me "Taking a Side" & all?
     
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    No the white nationalist does not want a european culture. white nationalists tend not to be socialists or collectivists or anything other than pure racists who blame their lot in life on others. Your cause is idiotic, perverse, and will never win. That said, I am perfectly fine with you pursuing it and I don't think white nationalists are necessarily the most evil people on the planet, so have at it.
     
  4. Brewskier

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    "Centrists" are fence sitters by definition. I wouldn't spend any time on this forum trying to get along with liberals.
     
  5. Just_a_Citizen

    Just_a_Citizen Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'm not "trying to get along" with anyone here.

    Most of you are just nameless/faceless Partisan hack-bigoted code to me.

    SOME I become friendly with, so long as they're not pinheads.
     
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    The picture on top could and I am sure had a parallel in middle class Negro / Black neighborhoods though there were not as many Negroes / Blacks as there were Whites and not as many Negroes/Blacks were middle class. So basically you can say that your example is much more an example of the division of economic class rather than race.

    You could have posted a picture of White teens in rural Arkansas or West Virginia and they would have looked a lot like the whites you posted except for their clothes and the fact that the Arkansas Whites would be dancing with their sisters and cousins, right? LOL ok I am being sarcastic to make a point that you are displaying the difference is class not race.
     
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    /Thread!
     
  8. Egalitarianjay02

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    There's no element of truth to anything you said. Your line of argument comes from a lack of understanding culture and human nature. For example if we look at history we see that the concept of race has only existed for a few hundred years. Before Europeans started thinking of each other as one race they identified as their own separate groups based on differences in language, nationality and culture. They were at war with each other for thousands of years. The same physical differences existed but they didn't mean anything to them when Europeans were only interacting with other Europeans. The same is true for every other group. Africans didn't care about their skin color until Europeans, who looked different from them, made an issue of it. The origins of racism are rooted in associating superficial physical characteristics like skin color with cultural differences. In reality cultures are a set of behavioral patterns within a community that become societal norms. Cultures are not fixed and they have changed drastically over short time scales far too quickly for genetic differences between populations to affect them.

    The idea of a Western Civilization itself is rooted in cultural arrogance and racist ideology. The values that Westerners consider fundamental to their societies exist in other cultures and anyone can learn and uphold them. The only problem that people of African descent have had with assimilating in to American society is rooted in institutional racism. The ancestors of modern African-Americans were kidnapped in Africa, sold in to slavery, beaten, raped, murdered, humiliated on a daily basis generation after generation for hundreds of years, labeled by their skin color, told they were inferior because of the differences between them and the majority population and after slavery ended after a bloody war where one side fought to maintain White Supremacy African-Americans were discriminated against for another 100 years being denied equal housing, education, employment, voting rights etc. and subjected to terrorism and police brutality. All of these experiences had a negative effect on African-Americans physically, economically and psychologically not only influencing their behavior and self-image but their health. Biology had nothing to do with it and culture is shaped by the environment that a person grows up in. You can't say that nothing has changed in America in the past few hundred years or even the past few decades.You also can't say that these problems with race-relations are the product of Blacks simply not being used to living in a Western society. Every African-American today that was born an American grew up in that society and that is all that they know as well as their parents, Grand-Parents and ancestors going back many generations to the 1600s when Africans were brought in boats against their will and forced to assimilate stripping them of their language and culture.

    If I moved to an African country today I wouldn't fit in. I wouldn't speak any of their native languages and I wouldn't have any familiarity with their cultures. I am not an African. I am a person of African descent living in America. I was born and raised an American citizen. This is my country and has been the country of my ancestors for many generations. I'm also not an exception. I know plenty of Black people, whole communities in fact, that are successful. I spent half my life living in majority White communities but also connected to the Black community through church and the minority of Blacks in those communities. When I moved to a majority Black community in the suburb of a major city there was no cultural shock. Everyone still spoke English. There were no peculiar behavioral patterns. The only thing that was really different was the different tastes in music. White kids where I grew up listened to different genres and they were labeled by those genres and other subcultures (e.g. Whites who listened to rap/hip hop were wiggers, Whites who listened to country and lived in rural communities were hicks, Whites who listened to rock music were punks). Most kids in the majority Black community I moved to listened to rap/hip hop. Otherwise there weren't many differences. If you were smart and had interests such as reading books, playing video games etc. you got called a nerd in both places. If you were in to sports you got called a jock.

    One of the only major peculiarities was seeing how Whites behaved when they lived around Blacks. A lot of the White girls had Black boyfriends or had dated a Black guy. Most White girls where I'd lived before had not. They never had an opportunity to and even though some were interested some freely admitted to me their family frowned upon it. One girl went as far as to say her father would kill her if she did. In the majority Black school it was very common. I got a chance to work with inner city Blacks after high school before I graduated from college. They were not stupid. Every job that I worked people took their work seriously. What I observed is that people who don't make a lot of money have a tendency to be more dishonest and manipulative towards other people who have money. People are constantly asking to borrow money, or try to use you if you have something they don't have. I worked a job straight out of high school where I had a car. Some of my employees didn't have a car and asked for a ride home insisting they would help pay for gas. When they tried to get out of paying they stopped getting rides. Things like that made me aware of the difference in mentality between people of different income levels. Differences in intelligence or personality are not the same as differences in mentality that is shaped by your experiences and personal decisions.

    I have seen people with different levels of intelligence and different personalities in the different communities I have lived in. All of this stuff about biology determining culture is complete garbage. This racist propaganda was refuted decades ago by respected scientists and anyone who has seriously studied this subject and observed the world around them while trying to legitimately understand people knows better.
     
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    Fake news there were no humans in Australia until the European prisoners were dumped there, LOL, !
     
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    You say that while responding to pictures of Whites partying....while wearing Confederate flags! Black people didn't invent hedonism. As soon as you accept this reality you can begin to free your mind from the confines of racist propaganda.
     
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    You do realize that you are comparing two points in time in the history of society in America and not two cultures at the same time in history, right!
     
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    Why? Because your program is hateful.
     
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    I legitimately don't care if you think it is a double standard.

    But let's have some fun here shall we. The Jews have a rather rigid system for defining what classifies someone as Jewish, but it does allow for new additions through conversion. How do you define "whiteness" and do you have something in mind that would allow for new additions to your club?
     
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    "A few hundred years"? Uhh, no. Even the Romans made specific references to the races of people that they encountered and they cataloged the differences that they found. As for the Northern Europeans warring with each other, they really didn't have much need to talk about race back then, since they lived in homogenous white areas, but that doesn't mean the concept never existed, or that they were not aware of it.

    I think it's pretty safe to say that the culture of the West is drastically different from the culture of Arab Muslims, black Sub-Saharans, and others.

    Blacks experienced many of these things all around the world, including in Africa, where they were bought as slaves by other groups. This still exists in some parts of the world, even today. Millions of white Europeans were taken by Arabs and North Africans in the Mediterranean area and sold into slavery, both sexual and otherwise.

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    Sure it does. Many of the things blacks are into are the result of their biology. They play basketball because they are naturally good at it due to their unique physical adaptations that give them an advantage in running and jumping. The same can be true with modern dancing, which has a lot in common with African tribal dancing. They are good dancers because this is something they've learned how to do over a long period of time in Africa. Whites have had to learn how to dance like blacks, because it isn't part of their original cultures.


    I'll trust most people can see obvious differences between how average blacks live in this country and how average whites live in this country, regardless of income.
     
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    I'm of the opinion that lower class whites have been affected by the black ghetto culture, and has caused them to act like lower class blacks. I occasionally see whites listening to rap and my first thought is "act your race". It's really embarrassing.

    Of course, they're not acting that way because of blacks. Blacks didn't do anything to make those whites listen to rap. Jews did, however.
     
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    Centrists are anything but fence sitters if they are battling the good fight against white nationalists.
     
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    Which would be an example of them taking the left wing side.
     
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    Your line of argumentation is embarrassing, of course, to Americans true to American values and the Constitution.
     
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    Which be taking the side of true Americanism against the white nationalists.

    And now the name calling and disparaging begins because that is all white nationalists can do in support of their agenda.
     
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    It is a double standard, but I'm not surprised to see you so comfortable wearing it. You're a progressive, after all.

    Yes I'm aware that someone can become a Jew by having some creepy bearded guy go after your junk with a knife if you're uncircumcised. Seems completely bonkers to me, but what do I know?

    No, I don't think there is any way to turn a black sub-Saharan into a Nordic European. You can't change DNA.
     
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    Are you a supporter of the Jewish ethno-state, by any chance?
     
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    which has almost 2 million non-Jewish citizens and 800,000 non-Jewish foreign workers and 50,000 non-Jewish refugees.
     
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    Brew, I guess I never really caught just how bigoted you are over the past 11 months.

    Ciao.
     
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    Reality sometimes look bigoted. Sorry if that's too real for you. Thankfully for you progressivism is still a safe bubble to reside in.
     
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    What bad things that you have had happen in your life do you attribute to people of other skin colors? What do you think would be better for you personally if you lived in an all white country?
     

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