Why does everyone hate the white nationalist cause?

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  1. Daniel Light

    Daniel Light Well-Known Member

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    Why does everybody hate white nationalists?

    Going to go way out on a limb on this one ... Cause they're dicks.

    And one little hint - when a white nationalist complains that EVERYBODY hates them ... Hey maybe it's time for a little self evaluation on the white nationalists part. If everyone is telling a person they are a dick, maybe it means that person is a dick.
     
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    America has constantly changed. It's a 'young' country.

    It seems to me (an outsider), that those least favourable to change are Progressives. If you're opposed to specific kinds of change - ie, when it's counter to your political interests - then you're not for change ... at all.
     
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    Even if that were true for America, how do you deal with the fact that Europe never had "institutional racism" and still has huge assimilation problems right now?

    Take France. There's always been a small black minority in France, and up to the 80's, they assimilated extremely well, and the country was openly pro-assimilation. So if you meet 2nd or 3rd generation Blacks in France, even working class ones, they're culturally French by any standard.
    And then the progressives came and destroyed it all. We got mass immigration, and we got white cucks labeling any call for assimilation "racist". So now, if you meet recent black immigrants, they're not real Frenchmen. A lot of them are tribalist scumbags who hate France and hate whites. Even children of good immigrants are going down that road.

    Similarly, globalists in Germany openly say that Muslim immigrants are not here to be assimilated, and they act like invaders.

    Sorry. It's the progressivist ideology of multiculturalism that killed assimilation. Not muh institutional racism.

    Besides, even in America, assimilation was only made impossible during the segregation period. So after the 60's, when all institutional racism was made illegal, why was there little to no assimilation?
     
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    Could not agree more with this. It has nothing to do with skin colour, and everything to do with culture.

    If Brewskier wants the 1950's, he only has to look at some of our more conservative minorities (Asians, migrant Africans, etc). They're still living the life he speaks of. Probably more fully than white conservatives do. Would you expel them from America, given that, Brewskier?
     
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    how about non-white separatists ... are they 'dicks'?
     
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    Yet someone I know who lives there has to keep her Christianity a secret. She's married to a local (Jewish), but didn't convert. He's secular, so doesn't care, but the state sure does. As do some of her secular neighbours. As for the orthodox, they literally turn their backs to her.
     
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    Your info. about France is absolutely false. The racism in France is some of the worst in the world. They have had major issues with rioting, violence, racism, economic segregation, you name it for decades.

    You need to open your mind a little and do some research. Assimilation is a tried and failed technique. It was attempted on native American populations and absolutely destroyed them. Culture has value and people bring that with them to the US. Why do you think Chinese and Korean immigrants are more successful at climbing the social ladder than black Americans whose ancestors were brought here as slaves? Those black Americans have no culture it was ripped from them and forbidden by the people who made them slaves. At the same time we see black immigrants from the West Indies who have come to the US and been much more successful. Again because they bring their customs, culture, personalities, languages, with them and utilize those tools to build communities and become successful in the US. Assimilation is all about the destruction of other cultures and it doesn't work. We need to build strong communities and societies by promoting all aspects of behavior and culture that people utilize to lead happy healthy successful lives. Pretending that white christians are the best is utter nonsense and we have huge amounts of data that prove that.
     
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    You are turned around again. The good right to the good left battle the white nationalists.
     
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    That is a fallacy of false equivalency on several levels: race, color, origin, religion, geography.
     
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    I imagine everything would be better. It's hard to feel a sense of community and shared purpose when people around you don't look like you, don't act like you, aren't into the same things, speak different languages, etc.

    There are real downsides to "diversity".
     
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    So you like one ethno-state but not another. Got it.
     
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    The incomprehension of your kind is amazing. But there it is. I am white. In America. I have done fine. My children and my sibs' children have done fine. Their children will do fine. Quit complaining and get to do work so you can do fine.
     
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    You could clone yourself and spend the rest of your collective lives standing in a giant circle-jerk of self-congratulations.
     
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    So then what in your life isn't good and needs to be better?

    I live, work, and socialize in a community, city, state that is inhabited by people of a huge variety of ethnic and personal backgrounds and I personally don't feel the way you feel. So, what is wrong in your life that you think would be better?
     
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    I am doing fine. The difference is I advocate for things to keep my own people from being annihilated. You don't. Quite the opposite. But glad to hear you did fine. Boomers squandered the great country they inherited from their father's generation, who they rebelled against, but I'm sure it was all worth it.
     
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    You're a left winger who derives political power off of those others, so it's not a real surprise to hear that you feel right at home with them.
     
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    Why won't you answer my question? What specifically is wrong or would be improved in your life if you lived in a country with only other white people?

    I don't have any more political power than you. I am not a politician and I don't work in government, we each get one vote.
     
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    :) No one is being annihilated as a people, Brew.
     
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    It just kind of sucks that the US is going to be an extension of Mexico someday, you know? The Hispanic world isn't really something I would want the US to become a part of, but it's happening that way due to demographics. And for what? So capitalists could have cheaper labor and leftists could have more votes? It doesn't seem worth it.
     
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    Mexico will be, you mean, an extension of the US. It's not tough to be light and white.
     
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    There's a couple of Jewish posters who post a thread every week about the waning numbers of whites in predominantly white countries. When you flood white countries (and only white countries) with millions upon millions of non-whites and encourage race mixing, you reduce the population of whites over time. If that's not annihilation, what is?
     
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    No, I don't mean that.
     
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    The Romans noticed differences between people but they didn't give as much social importance to them as modern Europeans did in recent centuries. In fact they thought more highly of the dark-skinned Africans from the cultures they encountered than they did many of the Northern European "barbarian" tribes who looked more like them. They were more ethnocentric and xenophobic than racist.



    There are differences and commonalities. All human populations have far more in common than they do differences. As I said, cultures can also change drastically over a relatively short period of time.

    Slavery and other forms of brutality were of course practiced all over the world and they have always had a negative effect on the oppressed. Native Americans had it worse than African-Americans and their cultures aren't exactly flourishing now are they? There are barely any of them left and their cultures have mostly survived extinction because of reservations. You can't have an honest conversation about race-relations in America without acknowledging the historical atrocities of the past and the racism used to justify them. Blacks can't be accused of failing to assimilate when they weren't given a fair chance to from the beginning and many are doing well now thanks to progressive and egalitarian social policies. Also many African immigrants who didn't experience the same level of institutional racism as African-Americans are doing just as well and some better than immigrants from Europe, Asia and other regions.


    These are oversimplifications of racial stereotypes. Whites haven't been dancing as long as Blacks and had to learn how to dance like Blacks? Really? Last time I checked Whites have been dancing as long as everyone else. Modern African-American dance has been influenced by African tribal dancing but that "wonderful sense of rhythm" has nothing to do with biological differences. These are cultural characteristics. People that are geographically separated will develop different languages and cultures and some cultural traits are due to environment. For example people living in colder climates are going to be more heavily dressed than people living in tropical climates. But this has nothing to do with biological differences. Now some biological differences will occur after thousands of years of separation due to living in different climates. This includes differences in height and body build that are related to athleticism. That doesn't mean that because there is some difference that everything is different. We have more commonalities than differences and traits that have equal survival value such as mental characteristics will be present in all populations because they are favored by natural selection.

    So saying that Blacks are over represented in the NBA or NFL and this is related to differences in athletic ability does not legitimize the theory that there are major differences in behavioral traits that one group has and another group doesn't. There is no scientific reason to believe this. The existence of human biological variation does not validate racist stereotypes and there are respected scientists who have addressed these subjects in detail.

    Example:

    http://www.pbs.org/race/000_About/002_04-background-01-06.htm





    How many areas have you personally lived in or visited to make your assessment?

    If you think that Blacks across incomes levels and regions in America generally behave the same way then you are misinformed. I see a very large difference between Whites living in impoverished rural towns, slums and trailer parks vs. Whites living in middle class towns and suburbs. Even in the majority Black area I lived in which was a middle class suburb the Blacks there had a different perception of Blacks in impoverished areas of the inner city and associated bad behavior with "acting ghetto."

    The truth is that bad behavior is not color coded and no group of people are morally superior whether we're talking about races or classes. Poverty does have a negative impact on upbringing but where you live does not define you.

    Rap is just a genre of music. Europeans and every culture on Earth have engaged in some form of Hedonism throughout history. There is nothing "Black" about going to parties with loud music, provocative dancing, drinking alcohol, eating like a slob, having promiscuous sex, taking drugs and acting like a fool. This is just an aspect of human behavior. Sometimes people want to enjoy themselves and act wild and crazy.



    Jews are not making White people behave like that. You can see ancient art from classical European cultures with the same level of hedonism which had nothing to do with African, Middle Eastern or any other cultural influence. Europeans are not some puritan, wholesome group of people that are above acting wild. In fact European tribesmen used to engage in some absolutely bizarre cultural practices you couldn't imagine any modern people doing.
     
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    You worried about our friend Guno's craziness about religion and whites?

    Race mixing? We have been doing that since Europeans came to the Americas.
     
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    You should; otherwise, you are wrong.
     

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