When Islamic ‘occupation of Europe’ becomes a reality

Uhm...no? There is no lack of terrorists who are Christians, Buddhists, or Hindu.

Where did you get that silly idea from?

 

Some Muslims defend Islam's way of terror ... that's blahhhhh but ok..
Can you provide % of Islam terror in the last 3 years ?
10%... 30% .. 60% ... 99% ??
What do you think ? Give us a number please.

 

And this is what by your definition?

Wrong! Did you ever read the Koran ... I mean the original version and proper translated and not the faked and twisted stuff used by the terrorist scum to back their terror?

In Islam we have different types as we have in Christian religion ... or do you seriously say that Catholic, Orthodox and all the many Protestant versions are all the same?
and even inside of all these Christian versions you have moderate and you have extremists ... same as in Islam!

Wrong and good example of lacking knowledge which leads to such wrong statements! Jihad means defending Islam against enemies and it means not only by violent acting, but also by peaceful missionary.

Do all your US citizens follow and accept your so called principles? No...
Of course it is not only your right to choose who enters your country and whom you take, but also your duty out of security reasons, but then same rights and laws and rating process for all please!

I agree that they do not much enough to separate this scum from their society in public. But it happens also and thanks to our often stupid MSM it is not proper enough reported too. After one of the last attacks in the UK, more than 100 Imams in the UK refuted to give the terrorist an Islamic funeral what is in matter of the sick interpretation of the religion by the terrorists a real heavy slap into the face ... about going to Paradise etc.!

I know there is a serious difference in constitution of USA and my country about freedom of speech ... in core, we protect the dignity of human as constitutional right. Is this given in the US constitution? Not really... But at us it is the highest right and is higher as any freedom of speech.
Also ... there are always groups who not only attack this dignity, but also have as main goal to destroy the constitution too! We forbid this scum to abuse the constitutional rights for their goal ... you too?

 

You want to have numbers and digits as facts, no problem, I can deliver you without any problem every single reported terror attack since 01.01.2000 on this planet and who it did / which reason...

But before I come with these digits you want, it must be clarified what an Islamic terror act is and what not. A silly question you maybe will say, but this is serious! These times it is a bad fashion to rate every "enemy" to be a terrorist as it is done by the Russians in Syria or by Erdogan in Turkey for example. In general we have also the problem, that such a rating was and is often one sided too, means one side rate them as terrorists, the others as (heroic) rebels fighting for freedom. Take Nicaragua of the 1980's as example and you will see that the US backed Contras were rated in the USA for sure not same way as being a terror organization as it is done by the Ussr backed Nicaragua government, eh?
Or currently ... That the Taliban in Afghanistan are bastards and scum is no question, but are they terrorists or evil rebels... what ends in the question if their attacks are at least civil war issues or terror acts!

Anyway ... the digits!

Since 01.01.2000 up to today were 305 terror attacks registered in the world ... and for sure were some more, as well are others critical to be rated as terror act. Of these 305 terror attacks were:

- 216 Islamic orientated / reasoned attacks
- 39 Rebel attacks with goal for independence / autonomy from central government etc.
- 26 Nazi and Racist reasoned attacks
- 17 are unknown who did it why or still unclear / unsure. For example the Anthrax attacks in 2001 in the USA
- 6 were from communist reasoned attacks
- 1 Christian attack (in an abortion clinic in the USA)

So about 70% of terror act and attacks in the world since 01.01.2017 are Islamic!

If we go now in detail ... we have inside these 216 Islamic attack 24 attacks in Afghanistan done by Taliban which are officially rated by whomever as a terror act (those by Al Qaida or IS are not in these 24 attacks). Why is attack A of Taliban rated as issue of war, but attack B of Taliban as terror act?
Also interesting is that about half of the attacks happened in Islamic countries - 107 attacks - and so here were in majority Muslims killed by Muslims due to Islam!
The other half happened in "Western" countries, Russia and also countries with a Muslim minority, for example in Kenya / Africa!

 

So now I'm a muslim? That's a new one. I must say, as an antitheist, I'm very rarely told I'm a muslim.

What are you on about? You said that all terrorists are muslims. That is patently not true. You can quibble all you want, but you are wrong.

 

I wrote "some Muslims" .. was not reffering to you.
You agreed on 70% global Muslim terror.
I say more .. much more .. but even 70% is filth and tells something about "The way of the Quran"

 

I allways say - Muslims ( espicially Arabs ) are the ONLY cause for Other Muslim's death

 

Because the times when we Christians kill each other because we pray to our common god and his son not the same way are so far over ... mostly, but not in general. Or in clear words: The times when Catholics kill Protestants and reversed due to their version of Christian religion are over so far.

In Islam this is not given and the dispute is still too often bloody! And more important ... why is it not over? Because we in the West do our best that this will not end by backing worst scum of dictators in power there due to own interests in the region!

 

There are non real dictators left in the Arab Muslim world .. except maybe Assad..
Do not blame the west for Muslims killing of other Muslims ! What a silly idea

 

No, I did not. Stop making up things that aren't true, please.

 

Apparently this fool never heard of domestic terrorism. America's white nationalists shooting up a church or running over a crowd using ISIS tactics.

 

Not?
Saudi Arabia is a good country and no regime and dictator led country for you, which is so evil Islamic?
Well ... strange when you and / or other in the US blame the hatred Iran for using Sharia law and the bestially penalties to be so evil, but that in Saudi Arabia is the same Sharia law used the same way is of course ignored then?

So we have no brutal regime who made public decapitation, lashing, hand chopping off in Saudi Arabia?

In Egypt there was no dictator who was supported and supported by the US in any form until Arabic Spring throw him out of office? Afterwards, the democratically elected government was not swept away by coup by the military and with US approval because the stupid Egyptians have chosen the wrong people, and since then have we been an exemplary democracy in Egypt?

Should I continue with other examples of US friends and allies in the region or even in the world?

 

Oh, of course not. It's not like Iran had elected a democratic and rather progressive government in the 50's that the US decided to overthrow and replace with a fascist dictatorship.

Oh wait...

 

The action of USA doesn't help but the main source of islamic terror is in the quran. Some countries like Japan was totally destroyed in the 40's, south korea lived under the harsh colonization of japanese, taiwan didn't had an easy life too.
However they managed to become democratic and free countries.

 

So it's not a "waste" of time, is it? I agreed people should stand up against wrong. My disagreement was with the whining about it. Just say what is right and move forward.

While I disagree on your beliefs about a purely materialist, non-spiritual existence, I do agree that spreading hate, including the "My religion is better than your religion" variety often ends in violence which is detrimental to advancement of the human race. OTOH, just as we discussed about not keeping silent, when a group of radicals, less than 0.002(?)% of all Muslims carry out terrorist attacks against innocent civilians, we need to do more than "voice" our disagreement.

 

One point here about your list. Marten was an American in name only but a muslim terrorist at heart and his actions showed it. Goes right along with tossing gays off buildings, don't you think?
On June 12, 2016, Omar Mateen, a 29-year-old security guard, killed 49 people and wounded 58 others in a terrorist attack/hate crime inside Pulse, a gay nightclub in Orlando, Florida, United States. He was shot and killed by Orlando Police Department (OPD) officers after a three-hour standoff. Pulse was hosting a "Latin Night" and thus most of the victims were Latinos. It was both the deadliest mass shooting by a single shooter and the deadliest incident of violence against LGBT people in United States history. It was also the deadliest terrorist attack in the United States since the September 11 attacks in 2001.

In a 9-1-1 call shortly after the shooting began, Mateen swore allegiance to the leader of the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL),

 

What do you mean by Americanized> Our culture? Better read this.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/jun/13/second-generation-americans-proving-most-fruitful-/

 

Initial wording in my post was poorly done. I should have said "problem within Islam" not "problem with Islam". I meant to distinguish between "Islamist" and Islam and then show that this is also a problem in the US.

At the end of the day it is about lack of respect for individual liberty. Wanting to force religious beliefs on others through physical violence (law) which includes Jihad and fatwah's.

I do not need to read the Koran to judge peoples actions. Strict Sharia Theocracy is evil and in fact is against some of the principles in the Koran.

 

All I'm hearing from you is charges of BS without pointing it out.

If you want to point out any positive aspects of Islam I'd love to hear them but at the same time I'll point out what an ignorant and backward religion it is. Fair enough?

 

Seems you're afraid of the Second Amendment as well as confronting the topic under discussion. Try to focus.

 

Within 3 generations Germany will be a majority of Muslims and within 2 generations will essentially be a Muslim theocratic state of the Empire of Islam. Simple math and the concessions Germany now makes to Islam make it inevitable. But since many Germans no longer have children and instead decided to just be worker bees in their assigned slots of their corporate employers, they don't care about Germany's long term future. They just hope that Muslim workers will take care of them in their old age - those that don't end up fleeing Germany.

 

The German government dictates what their people may and may not think and say.

 

Idiotic nonsense as always. Whatever your problem with everything German is, it makes you look really foolish.

 

And this is according to who?

 

Seems you totally missed my point. So let me try once again.

Are you running around all paranoid that your fellow americans are killing each other with their legally owned guns at a rate 1,000 times greater than terrorist are killing your fellow americans?

Try hard to grasp the blatant nuance.