When Islamic ‘occupation of Europe’ becomes a reality

most funny topic i ever read. We have 4 million muslims in Germany. With a population of 82 million. The amount of muslims in Thüringen for example is at 0.4%.

 

And ?

 

I want Muslim immigration - this will eventually lead to people realizing the folly of faith.

 

its a moral obligation, something you clearly dont understand

 

Whose moral obligation?

 

the conquerering force.

if you **** over a country you have some moral obligation to help fix it, especially if you invaded without any provocation or justification, as we did with Iraq.

 

According to who? Whose morality are we apparently operating under?

And it's not really morality, it's vote harvesting and politics. I don't think they have any morality.

 

if you invade and devistate a nation that never attacked you, you have a moral obligation to help fix it.

 

Most countries signed the agreement that they will never refuse a refugee (not to be confused with a immigrant)

 

and yet your beloved Muslim nations did not sign such agreement, and refuse to abide by it.

but you give Muslim nations a pass.

 

They won't be allowed enough freedom to reach that point. You have never been under true and complete repression if you can believe this.

 

I have no obligation, i actually dont care about them as long they stay out of my country. Their fate doesnt interest me.

 

100% agree.

 

People really need to put their money where their mouth is. If you purport to believe in the basic foundations of democratic rule, then believe that these ideas will sell themselves well to immigrant populations who were not exposed to them before. if you believe in Christianity and democratic principles, then believe theycan successfully compete on the marketplace of ideas with other faiths and ideologies with the home field advantage. If these ideas cannot prosper under these circumstances, then there may be something wrong with the quality of the salesmen or the product. Then I say work harder to improve your product and your sales pitch or stop whining when you lose ground and face bankruptcy. All I ever see in anti-muslim rhetoric is the self conscious doubts and fears that they can compete against the ideas that scare them. You are just a bunch of cowards

Stop whining and get out there and proselytize and sell!

 

portent

 

That's a distinction without a difference. What does it matter if it's the religion or an interpretation? When it becomes our law, will we care about any theoretical distinction?

 

At least these returnees from Syria or Iraq need to be imprisoned for many years upon returning home. The majority of terrorists in Europe are former jihadists who had been to Syria. The US military has detained a US citizen who had been fighting with ISIS in Syria, but it's unfortunate that Obama had already closed down Guantanamo.

 

Then I must hate all religions on this planet at least ... and everyone with an IQ over 85 is intelligent enough to see that this Anti Islam BS is not backed by anything ... and for sure not by any sort of facts!
And it is very interesting that these Islam hating people take the same sort of faked and out of context taken parts of Koran to back their hate, as do this Islamist scum to back their terror in name of Islam! So any person with an IQ of about 85 must be skeptic when I take the same mental BS to reason my point as do the enemies ... but because Islam haters have obviously lesser as 85 IQ, I do not wonder anymore and I am tired to smash these idiots with facts in their face which they don't want to hear because it will hurt their sick hate!

 

As a convinced atheist I hate BS blabbering towards any group, no matter who towards whom.
And before someone shouts towards an other one to be bad ass like here, it is better to learn some facts and this means not investigating only the BS Islam hate sides and repeat their mental BS, but to be interested in facts and being open minded.

 

It is weird to see that Anti Islam people use lies and only fitting parts of history, as well same BS fakes and twisted Koran content as these terrorist sum!
All for what you blame Islam, you can blame any other religion on this planet too! And before anyone starts to quote the Koran to back his hate, he should better read it thoroughly and make sure not read a faked version of the original ... because for example are these "evil unbelievers" by Koran NOT Christians and Jews! Only 1 of so much BS told...

As an atheist I hate silly and unreasoned hate attacks on anyone, no matter if religion, race or whatever...

 

Really?
If you build crap, then you have to bear the consequences! But is well known that the US is too stupid to accept this as they are since end of WW-2 not able to win and end any military conflict successful! but declare very fast a "mission accomplished" if it begins to be uncomfortable!

So yes ... you are under no requirement to mess up the world and it would be better you stay inside your own borders!

 

But too many Muslims don't want to "fix it". They want to live their lives under the Koran through a Theocracy, not a Democracy. In fact the militant arm of Islam seems to be winning. And they have people like yourself who feel it's the Islamists who have been the victims in all of this.

 

in fact it is militant Islam which is 'messing up' the world and doing it through intimidation and murder. These are an ignorant people, with their action being dictated from a discredited book with rules laid down 13 centuries ago. If it's all the fault og yjr |Americans why are Muslims murdering people in Africa, Europe, Asia, Australia, Canada, etc.

Here's a report from Indonesia. http://time.com/4930742/islam-terrorism-islamophobia-violence/

https://www.steynonline.com/8109/the-language-of-losing

 

Your opinion is noted but the facts on islam and Islamists speaks for itself.

 

We'll eventually hear the call to prayer five times per day from Buckingham Palace.

Then the left will be happy.