hammer-wielding attacker yelling 'Allahu Akbar' in France

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  1. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    the Koran holds the Torah as God's literal word.

    The Koran claims that it was Allah that gave the Land of Canaan to the Jews, made them special among the nations and brought the Jews out of Egypt.

    so if you wanna blame anyone for slaughtering the 1st born of Egypt, blame Allah.
     
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    Uh no. I blame the Jewish religion. Just utterly pathetic you blame Muslims that Jews have their Jewish pro genocide for the sake to thieve land religion.
    Yeah right. You demand a Jewish child can be used as a human shield on fresh ethnically cleansed land, while you lot don't care one bit how many Palestinian children who got kicked out of their houses end up being blown up by Jews in their hospital beds. If you Jews don't like your children be killed when they are used as human shields, than you can just go back to your side of the border. While you can't say a Palestinian child has a choice.
     
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    according to Islam's holy book, it is ALLAH himself who gave the Land of Canaan to the Jewish people, made the Jewish people special among the nations and slayed the First Born of Egypt.
     
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    Using human shields, as Hamas has done in Gaza, is a war crime.

    There is no court on Earth that has ever argued that children in Israeli settlements qualify as illegal human shields.

    you're just making **** up cause yours is a failed argument.
     
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    I am very much against demolition of Palestinian homes in the West Bank and East Jerusalem.

    dont put false words in my mouth, bro
     
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    You do not comment on anything I actually wrote.
     
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    Jews still believe in THEIR pro genocidal Jewish religion.
    And Islam plays no roll in THEIR way of believing genocide is cool to thieve land.
     
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    Israeli Jewish civilians moving on ethnically cleansed land is a war crime.
    Them lot dragging in their children as human shields is an other war crime.
    Them lot joining the IDF to do the ethnic cleansing is a war crime.

    It's totally just the Jew homeland is the most condemned nation on the planet.
     
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    You can't read a competently-composed translation into English (or whatever language you are more comfortable with....)? You need a 'tutor' or 'proctor' or some other kind of intermediary? Really sad....

    Oh, and you claim that this site: http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/violence.aspx is "fanatically biased anti muslim"...? Upon exactly WHAT scholarly research have you arrived at that conclusion? Again, are you unable to read a simple translation into English? Does the Quran actually SAY what it SAYS, or does it not? What is there about Islam's commandments to its 'faithful' for violence and murder against "infidels" that you think needs "interpretation"...?

    [​IMG]. "Now the f*cking idiots are trying to figure out what 'Sieg heil" means...." :spin:
     
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    You must be kidding me that you think you're selling me something I did not know.


    http://www.loonwatch.com/2012/07/th...treamline-the-american-empires-war-on-terror/

    Seriously... with a mocking slur like "the religion of peace" how can it not be a hate site?
     
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    "Selling" you something you "did not know"...? Another strangely incoherent sentence. Look, if you'd rather try a different language, I'll try to follow along. Could I suggest German? It's really hard to get denotations f*cked up in German....


    Oh, OF COURSE, your authoritative source of critical expertise is loonwatch.com ...? Honestly, instead of stooping that low, why don't you just tell us all what parts of the Quran (if any) that are incorrectly translated at https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/violence.aspx . Surely you noticed that at 'religion of peace' they quoted the Quran -- so, are you saying that they deliberately quoted the Muslim 'holy book' wrong...?

    And while we're at it, if Islam really is a "religion of peace", then why are Muslim's devoted 'faithful' running around the planet committing the worst kinds of cruel, destructive, murderous acts imaginable against "Infidels" in the name of Islam? Remember -- they're doing this TODAY. I'm not talking about things that Muslims did hundreds upon hundreds of years ago.... Take your time... this ought to be good.... :roll:
     
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    loonwatch says exactly what is wrong with islamforpeace site.
    It's useless with no context, and no interpretation of a scholar. How about you comment on a competently-composed translation into English that lacks any context and interpretation gives a good picture of what it says?
     
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    OK, got it. You like loonwatch, and, you need to have a plain-English translation of the Quran's verses of violence 'interpreted' by "a scholar"...?
    Barnum was right -- "there's a sucker born every minute".... Fair enough....

    Meanwhile, if Islam is so 'peaceful', then why are all these homicidal maniacs running around the world murdering "infidel" people to please their God...? Or are you saying that this was just some crackpot crap that they all dreamed up by themselves and that none of those commandments are in the Quran...? You can't have it both ways. Choose!
     
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    If you think that when you read 1 random line from the Quran, and claim you understand it just as well as any scholar who studied the entire Quran for years and years... than indeed "there's a sucker born every minute"

    Amount of people who are like that compared to the total number of Muslims is insignificantly small. And putting it differently: The percentage of people who get incarcerated in the US for violent crimes is higher. Does that mean all Americans are utterly violent in your eyes?
     
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    The Quran contains a hell of a lot more than "1 random line" containing commandments to 'the faithful' about what they expected to do TO "Infidels". If you have ever pored through Islamic 'holy' writings, you KNOW that....

    But next you write, "The percentage of people who get incarcerated in the US for violent crimes is higher." Exactly what has that statement got to do with anything we've been sparring about...? Now I am getting concerned. Maybe English is your native language... but you've just got an entirely different set of, uh, problems...(?). :juggle:
     
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    are you saying Islam is not as genocidal as Judaism is?

    of course it is.

    Islam says to fight the non-believers until they surrender or give up.

    But, if they are idolaters, Islam says to KEEP fighting them even after they surrender and give up.

    that is genocide.

    The Koran also says the following:

    "Children of Israel, remember the favour that I have bestowed upon you. Keep your Covenant and I will be true to mine. Children of Israel, remember the favour that I have bestowed upon you, and that I exalted you above the nations.

    Remember how We delivered you from Pharaoh's people, who had oppresed you cruelly, slaying your sons and sparing only your daughters. We parted the sea for you, and taking you to safety, drowned Phraroh's men before your very eyes."
     
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    The point is that religion of peace site does not give any context or interpretation.
    And you think that is not suspicious at all? LOL
    You claim you understand the Quran when you read 1 line out of context and without interpretation?
    No matter what language is your native language... what an utter joke it is to claim that.

    1)There are about 106K jihadists on a total number of 1.6 billion muslims.
    2) There are about 10 million people who got convicted over violent crimes in the US on a total number of 325 million.

    How are your math skills? If you think that "1" is good enough to slander all the muslims, how can you not conclude that all the Americans are degraded violent thugs?
     
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    Ahhhh! It's the end of Europe and white people! Und stuff.
     
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    So why are 1.6 billion muslims not fighting the non-believers?
    You can only conclude what you say is just false.
     
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    The West waits patiently for Palestinians to condemn the Hamas' war crimes of storing weapons in hospitals and ambulances and firing rockets at Israel from densely populated areas in Gaza.
     
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    because they have chosen to ignore that part of the Koran.
     
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    A country like Saudi Arabia is not following the Koran?
    lol

    What an utterly pathetic claim that is.
     
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    are you saying the Koran doesn't tell Muslims to fight the non-believers until they relent, but keep fighting the idolaters?

    im just making it up?

    LOL!!! go buy a copy of the Koran.
     
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    The entire worlds demands that the Israeli civilians leave the WB, East Jerusalem and Golan. It's a war crime that they are there. It's a war crime the Jews ethnic cleansed those Arabs away to make room for them.
     
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    no, Israel has the legal right to occupy the West Bank and the Golan until there is a peace treaty.

    what does appear to be illegal are Israeli-only civilian settlements on private land and state land in the West Bank



    you cannot expect the IDF to completely evacuate the West Bank until there is a peace treaty.

    no international law or UN resolution calls for this
     
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