Iran unveils an ICBM missile with range of 2,000 km, multiple warheads

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  1. truth and justice

    truth and justice Well-Known Member

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    That is what rogue nations do. Break agreements so that no other country will ever trust you again. Iran are fully abiding by the agreement. BTW You have no legitimate concerns otherwise you would present them just as specified in the agreement. You just want to bomb Iran - you are war mongers, so much for Clinton being the war monger! .
     
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    truth and justice Well-Known Member

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    What threat are Iran to the UK, Europe or the US? Where have Iran broken the terms of the deal?
     
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    Iran have always broken terms of every other deal, why do you feel this one should be the exception?
    Search "Iran Breaks Treaty" on Google. I got 421,000 results. The world is just oozing with trust for Iran.
    This is their MO.



    Personally I feel no threat from Iran or to Iran.
    I've got no beef with Iran. Carry on Iran.

    My country has sanctions vs Iran due to the history of it's revolution and more relevantly, America's desire for us to have them.
    I'm not giving up trade with America for trade with Iran.

    I don't care if they have nukes or not.
    I like trading with Saudi and I prefer that to trading with Iran too.

    UK has no beef with Iran but lots of our mates do. And that's usually enough of an excuse for us.
     
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    Here's another one who has no knowledge of the kind of cruel injustice that a pack of Islamo-Nazis can unleash in complete defiance of international custom and LAW. Link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_hostage_crisis . Why should anyone in "the West" trust any of them...?

    Hint: it's essentially the same pack of Islamo-Nazis, with the same beliefs and the same goals running Iran now as there were inflicting terror on Americans then!


    [​IMG] . پیروزی درمان شده! ("Sieg heil!")
     
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    truth and justice Well-Known Member

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    :roflol: Going back nearly 40 years to an event where no one died or harmed except during your botched rescue! 40 years! Is that the best you have got?
     
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    Pollycy Well-Known Member

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    No one was harmed? There is no use in trying to even discuss this with you. How would you like it if you were held in a prison for NO REASON for 444 days...? Forget it... it's like trying to explain algebra to a chicken.
     
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    No, I am not searching for anything to back up your claims. As for number of google results I can search for "Is the queen a reptile" and I got 18,300,000 results so that must be true since you got 421,000 for your claim that you state was true
     
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    Going back 40 years!
     
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    I'm just saying it's out there if you want to validate my claims.
    There is loads and loads for you to read on the subject if you wanted to.

    There is no reason for you to read up on my claims, unless it's a subject you are interested in and history that you were unaware of. In which case, it's all there. Knock yourself out.
     
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    Just about every advanced technology becomes generally accessible to all nations over time.

    Unfortunately other nations will develop the interest and capability to manufacture advanced weapons systems. there is not much we can do about that.

    I do not LIKE that reality, I do not endorse that reality. But I do not see how we can avoid that reality.
     
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    Iran will die forever if it attacks Israel with nukes.
     
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    What ever your beliefs you can find many links to back up any belief. I just googled "Iran did not break treaty" and got 2,750,000 results whereas your search for "Iran breaks treaty" gives 421,000 results. You made the claim that "Iran have always broken terms of every other deal," so the onus is on you is to provide proof that Iran have always broken terms of every other deal.
     
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    Baff, please provide the objective evidence for your statement that Iran is the deal breaker.
     
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    Now that you've Googled them read them if you are interested in the history.
    You should be able to find newspaper articles from over the last 2 decades at least. This will give you an idea of the international discourse that Iran is involved in.

    Now you may go through every example and rule in favour of Iran at every single chance you get. But you will at least be able to recognise from this that Iran has an international reputation for dishonouring it's agreements. Even if you personally don't think it has done so, it should be clear from your own search results that this is a widely held belief.


    I am not here to prove anything to you. If you are interested follow it up. If not, not.
    This is my opinion. I can explain to you why I have come to hold it. But the only person who can prove anything to you is yourself.
     
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    A lot of waffle with nothing of substance to reply to.
     
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    Will some randomly Googled newspaper headlines do?

    So I search "Iran breaks Deal". 28,700,000 results.

    Look them up for yourself. Sorry mate.
    Most of it is all crap about some worthless nuclear deal.
     
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    Then don't.

    If you've got some historical examples of Iran honouring it's deals with the west, you'd wish to add to the discussion please do.
    If it's your opinion that they are historically honest actors or widely perceived around the world to be honest political dealers, by all means chip in, but if all you want is for me to wetnurse you through a Google search so you can dispute anything I am trying to explain, then I CBA to play. Sorry.
    It involves me sifting through the internet to show you stuff I already know about because I read it when it was todays news, and that you will most likely just dismiss as untrue after I make tons of effort to find it for you.
    Not a fun game.

    Sorry don't care. Carry on thinking Iran is a diplomatically honest country please.
     
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    Are you willing to bet 200 million American lives on that?
     
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    You're worrying about the wrong country. Given the bellicosity of the US & Israeli regime leaders speaking at the UN, Iran would be crazy NOT to have a deterrence program. Rouhani's speech was refreshingly sane in comparison.

    "Israel aims its nuclear warheads at Europe"
    http://www.voltairenet.org/article164432.html

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    "Netanyahu & the Lobby Cowboy Up For War With Iran"
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mj-rosenberg/netanyahu-the-lobby-cowbo_b_3611038.html

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    "Israeli Professor:
    'We Could Destroy All European Capitals'"
    http://www.sweetliberty.org/issues/israel/destroycaps.html

    EXCERPT "-- An Israeli professor and military historian hinted that Israel could avenge the holocaust by annihilating millions of Germans and other Europeans.

    Speaking during an interview which was published in Jerusalem Friday, Professor Martin Van Crevel said Israel had the capability of hitting most European capitals with nuclear weapons.

    "We possess several hundred atomic warheads and rockets and can launch them at targets in all directions, perhaps even at Rome. Most European capitals are targets of our air force.

    Creveld, a professor of military history at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem, pointed out that "collective deportation" was Israel's only meaningful strategy towards the Palestinian people.

    "The Palestinians should all be deported. The people who strive for this (the Israeli government) are waiting only for the right man and the right time. Two years ago, only 7 or 8 per cent of Israelis were of the opinion that this would be the best solution, two months ago it was 33 per cent, and now, according to a Gallup poll, the figure is 44 percent."

    Creveld said he was sure that Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon wanted to deport the Palestinians."I think it's quite possible that he wants to do that. He wants to escalate the conflict. He knows that nothing else we do will succeed."

    Asked if he was worried about Israel becoming a rogue state if it carried out a genocidal deportation against Palestinians, Creveld quoted former Israeli Defense Minister Moshe Dayan who said "Israel must be like a mad dog, too dangerous to bother."

    Creveld argued that Israel wouldn't care much about becoming a rogue state
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    "Our armed forces are not the thirtieth strongest in the world, but rather the second or third. We have the capability to take the world down with us. And I can assure you that this will happen before Israel goes under.[ Professor Martin Van Crevel]"CONTINUED
     
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    Yes.
     
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    The small parts technology it takes for these missles are easily moved.
     
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    Israel is too small. They get hit with one or two nukes or a handful of dirty bombs and it's over.
     
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    But you are not an American so its not up to you
     
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    We have Trump betting all of our lives on his mouth farting at Kim Jong Un.
     

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