Does atheism poise a safety risk to Christians?

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Is the ideology of atheism as practiced in the USA poise a safety danger to Christians?

  1. Yes

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  2. No

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  1. Renee

    Renee Well-Known Member

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    I strive to do good also but I don’t need the supernatural to make me feel guilty. And yes I do hate people that are really bad and that is not always a bad thing.
     
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    There were not even a thousand people killed by segregation in the 20th Century here. Yet you can't even lay even a little bit of condemnation towards your beloved Commies for their 94 million killings. How sad.

    You have obviously been brainwashed in a Marxist training camp---some Leftist public school.

    Why don't you read some history on Native Americans. Whole groups civilizations and tribes were wiped-out by their fellow Indians long before Europeans came to the New World:


    Paleo Indians, Olmecs, Mayans, Fremont People, and so many more---all dead and gone by the hands of their fellow savages.
    https://www.aaanativearts.com/ancient-native-american-civilizations-in-mesoamerica
     
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    Trump in my opinion is not bright enough to be an atheist unlike for example Jefferson.

     
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    I do not see how any coherent hominid could take any issue at all with that. 'Course that whole male dominator perceptual reality came in very handy with regard to the enslavement of Africans and the ethnic cleansing of the continent.
     
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  6. BillRM

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    True indeed and the only difference between white Christians and the natives is that we was must better at mass killings and we have all manner of diseases that was useful to us.

    Of course they did not have religions where the symbol was a man of peace to all of mankind so we was being far more of hypocrites
     
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    I have always found it amusing how americans can so quickly pivot from "we're exceptional" to "well gee mom, everyone else was doing it".

    Make a decision.
     
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    Well I dunno about that. Professing atheists often hate their consciences, which naturally compels them to act in violation thereof.

    Then surely, providing a strictly materialistic explanation for the presence of conscience won't be a problem.
     
  9. yabberefugee

    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    God never makes me feel guilty....that comes on its own. I don't have to hate bad people because when I do....I let them rent space in my mind. God has forgiven me much so I try to forgive others. He sent His Son to show me I can eventually overcome.
     
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    I hated hitler, doesn’t mean he rented space in my mind, I hate the father who raped my student, he doesn’t rent space in my mind,,,but he spurs me to action. I think we are playing se,antics with the world
    He didn’t send a supernatural son to me, but I overcome things just fine
     
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    It is quite tiring to hear you blame atheists for violence while overlooking all the killings and hate in the name of Christianity...seems it is Christians who blame atheists as the ones with a messed up conscience ...sounds like you might need some conscience not to blame innocent and good people.
     
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    You are really on to something! Another interesting thing......The word Mohawk, a name given to an indigenous tribe by other indigenous tribes means "eaters of people".
     
  14. JakeJ

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    So what is your point? You are claiming anyone can morally kill anyone because there was a lot of killing in their ancestry?

    The tactics of the US military, even against peaceful tribes who had never fought, relocated as ordered and disarmed as ordered makes ISIS look like humanitarians.

    In the West, it was typical US tactics - open tactics - to wait while the men were out hunting to charge a village (town). The children, women and old folks were to be used as human shields if the "warriors" attacked and horrifically abused if not until they surrendered, promising them no harm. Upon surrender, all those men would then be killed - plus all old people and little children - and the village basically turned into a rape camp for the soldiers and settlers. This is why almost everyone who claims to have some distance NA ancestry it will be maternal, meaning rape.

    However, on other occasions a peaceful village would be attacked and every child, woman and man slaughtered, 100%, shot and bayonet. Gen. Custer 2 years before had totally exterminated a peaceful village - 100% genocide. The reason different tribes rallied was due to that and their understanding the goal of the USA military was total genocide of all NAs in the region, other than they would keep some of the young female NAs for rape brothels. That is why Custer divided his force. NAs never stood their ground and fought. Rather, they always tried to flee with their children and women. It is known from his notes that his goal was to surround all the NAs in the area and kill them all, again with some possible exception of keeping young NAs as pleasure women for the soldiers and settlers.

    "The only good Indian was a dead Indian" was the standard. Even if they tried to flee the USA to Canada or Mexico - seemingly then ending the problem - the desire to mass murder and destroy Indians so great even that would not be allowed.

    Of course, you justify that claiming some NAs treated other NAs badly too and some NAs treated white people badly, for which you logic is that anyone is justified in murdering anyone and everyone because in their ancestry someone of their ancestry murdered people. It is called "amorality" - or having no moral code whatsoever. All black people are justified in killing any white people in your logic.

    All Irish are justified to kill anyone of English ancestry. All Latinos justified in killing white people. All white people justified to murder anyone who isn't white. Brown eyed people are justified to murder blue eyed babies. In your amorality viewpoint, anyone is justified in murdering anyone individually or in genocide. You have justified the holocaust, the attack on Pearl Harbor and the 9-11 attack. Basically, you have an amoral justification for all murder.
     
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    You were alive when Hitler was??? Or do you still hate him? Sounds like he rents space in your mind. Turn it over to God.
     
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    What you do Renee is this...you look at imperfect people, like you and myself, then you judge God. As far as I see, you never look for God. Today I went to Church and am happy for it.
     
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    I looked for God, he wasn't there.
     
  18. Renee

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    If the supernatural belief gives you comfort, then I am very happy for you.we are all imperfect..(except for me)
    I was a believer for years but I’m not anymore, I don’t look for any god accept for Eros
     
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    No I wasn’t alive, but I hate his legacy , my ancestors who lost their families, hated him. Yes, he takes up space in my mind, because similar behavior happening here it should take up space in your mind too
     
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    well said and reflects my family
     
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    Interesting so you are only good and moral due to fear of punishment and judgement in the afterlife by some super parent figure?

    Without that fear of this all powerful god you would be a monster of some kind to even your family and friends?

    So what awful evilness is lurking in your soul that require such chains of fear to keep under control?

    Oh I love your theory that Christians and the other world religions members made braver warriors then atheists due to their beliefs in an afterlife.

    Kind of remind me of when the Iraq soldiers was given plastic keys to carry into battle to open the gates of paradise if they would die fighting in the Iran/Iraq war.
     
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    Hmm when was the Jews killed by the millions in Christian Europe was that hundreds of years ago or 70 years ago or so?

    An how many centuries ago did the neo-nazis do their marches on US college campuses?

    Too bad that the men and women with the tattoo numbers are mostly gone now as if you had talk to one or more of them you will never forget doing so and you will feel like apologies for the whole human race.
     
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    I believe all Christians are Christians, just some are bad, most are good normal people though... same with Muslims, Jews, Buddhists, Atheists... the list goes on
     
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    What do you consider recent times as to me the 1930s to 1940s was fairly recent times.
     
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    Surely you will not hesitate to provide a verbatim quote and link to me blaming any atheists for violence not perpetrated by atheists.

    Fine, I'll take this as an admission that you can't provide a materialistic explanation for conscience.

    You looked with a jaundiced eye, so you looked everywhere He wasn't.
     

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