Pit Bulls should be banned in this country ! <<MOD WARNING - FOR RULE 9>>

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  1. crank

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    You're kidding, right?
     
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    Read my post right above.
     
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    No doubt some breeds are easier to train than others. Labs are easy to train. A border collie is a natural herder and needs little to no training for the herding task. . Pits were bread for a combination of strength and agility. Aggression is taught, either intentionally or as a learned behavior/survival mechanism due to neglect or abuse. I have worked with/been around 100's of pits and i know for a fact they can and do learn. Both good and bad behaviors.

    The police are not excluded from having the same misconceptions as you. So yeah they may very well shoot first. They do that with humans as well. Chances are a dog running loose is going to be a bigger threat than not. This is even more true in an urban environment if for no other reason than there is more stimuli that can potentially scare them.
     
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    Even a very good dog will normally be territorial. I haven't examined those pitties but I'd say offhand that you did the right thing.
     
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    The police have seen my dogs running free, and I have never had a problem, in fact one cop actually came over to me and said that they were beautiful. I blew my whistle and they were at my and his feet. This will never happen with a loose pitbull, not ever, the owner will get multiple tickets every time. That said no owner seems to let their pit run, ever, they are prisoners of hate, kids come first
     
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    Best solution: locate a facility that runs play groups and try to get your dog into a number of sessions. Often the people running the group will welcome a new addition to provide variety for the dogs they work with. And best of all, it may well be a no-charge prospect.
     
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    So it's ok with you if a pit kills the mailman who invaded his territory
     
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    NO DOG should be allowed to run loose!! There are dangers to those dogs, other dogs, and to people. It is very irresponsible!

    And as to police and animal control officers, our local small-town animal control officer is clueless!! He brings a stray in just about weekly and to him its just about control. He has been seen doing some very, very STUPID things with dogs, and unnecessarily cruel things as well. I also had a dog trainer with 35 years experience who works at a Petsmart near me show me that she had no idea how to deal with a dog that has problems. In this case it was a 4-month-old Min-Pin mix that was afraid of her shadow, and the "trainer" had no idea what to do. So my wife and I helped the lady, got the dog calmed down, showed her how to do what we did, and left a grateful lady and more peaceful pup when we left.

    A BEHAVIORIST is the best bet for problems. A TRAINER can handle "sit" "stay" "come" "lie down" etc.
     
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    Why do you do that?
     
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    I guess you have never been to an area set aside for hunting dogs to run loose and train, well I have and have spoken to many police and game rangers of many types in several states and have never had a problem. Your problem is that you do not own a dog, you own a monster

    Again we let our dogs run free all the time
    http://www.state.nj.us/dep/fgw/dogtrain.htm
     
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    Because these monsters kill kids and you seem not to care
     
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    Why would anyone chain a dog?
     
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    If I see a person walking a pitbull, I cross the street....

    if I saw a person with an AR-15, I'd run like hell and call the police.
     
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    Hey slow guy, I thought I was obviously referring to a dog owner who opens the house door and lets the dog out with no fenced yard. Instead of jumping at the opportunity to satisfy your lust for conflict and intimidation, you really should try asking questions if something isn't clear to you. Training for hunting is altogether different. There is a large field right by the country road half a mile away and we often see hunting dogs out there training when we go by, and I have never seen even one of those dogs in the road. They're always well controlled. After all, control is the whole point in such a case.
     
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    This is why
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    It's because some of us understand them, that we are (sensibly) 'afraid' of them. It's the people who don't understand, who generally own them.
     
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    I let my dogs out the front door to the unfenced front yard, literally every day and night, they either run to the fenced back yard or pee in the front and come back in. You have no clue what a real dog even is, because you own a monster
     
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    The point is there is no life without risk. Can you imagine a world were every risk is banned? I can't.

    A responsible dog owner will know and understand his dog. I apopted my Border Collie/Lab mix @ 11 months old (she will be 6 end of the month). Quickly learned she had a fear of people. It was clear she had never been socialized even tho that fear did not present itself at the shelter. She was never been aggressive. She would always avoid. Even today it can take her a while to warm up to strangers. I do take the effort to keep an eye on her around new folks until they are comfortable with her/she with them. Even still i keep an awareness of her at all times. Honestly, more for her protection than that of others. It is my responsibility as an owner. I instruct visitors to allow her to come to them and dont seek her out. She will in her own time.

    Again, A responsible dog owner will know and understand his dog. If you don't have the aptitude for that. DON'T own a dog
     
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    You're a bright as your name suggests. You SHOULD know I was asking why you would post a baseless accusatory "question" that is so insulting and your own fantasy.

    So now why would you post such a DUMB thing as "So it's ok with you if a pit kills the mailman who invaded his territory?" when I never suggested such a thing? WHY DO YOU DO THAT?
     
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    "So it's ok with you if a pit kills the mailman who invaded his territory?"

    Well?
     
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    So a Scottish Terrier and a Chihuahua are "monsters"? You're still living up to your name.
     
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    Nope, still don't understand it. Any 'wild dog', wolf hybrid, or potentially dangerous dog, should be housed in a large enclosed run of 6 foot chain link or rigid mesh with same across roof, proper insulated kennel, and some earth or grass area. The enclosure mesh should be buried at least 30cm at the base, to prevent digging out. Heck, we have medium sized, not-dangerous, well trained working dogs, and we have 6 foot timber fences (around our entire property) with inwards angled mesh around the top of these fences, because our dogs are good jumpers/climbers.

    Again, why would anyone chain a dog?
     
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    As long as you keep asking accusatory, stupid, "trump-like" questions, you're not getting an answer from me. That is how I train dogs.
     
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    There is a problem with dogs, and it is the same problem we're having here in this thread. Stupid people are often responsible for problem dogs.
     
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