Pit Bulls should be banned in this country ! <<MOD WARNING - FOR RULE 9>>

I don't know, because I don't own them, and never have. I imagine that would be up to the individual owner. My own perspective is that I don't require a dog to 'do something', I require it to live in harmony and good manners with humans. In order to live in harmony with us, they need to be fully house trained (and be able to hold their water overnight .. for up to 10 or 12 hours), never jump on people, never harass people for food at dinner time, not jump on furniture or beds unless specifically asked to, stop barking immediately when asked to, and conversely bark upon command, not lick their butt inside the house, not lick people unless invited to do so, sit, drop, stay - first time, every time, and until released. Understand "up" (jump up onto something, or into my arms), "go find" (whoever) to go to that person's location and seek their attention, "out" to leave a space or room, "outside" to leave the house, "inside" to enter house, "no" for anything, "finished" to indicate a game has ended, "get the ball" to start a game, "in the car", "in the back" (to indicate they must stay in the cargo area, and not sit on car seats), etc etc etc. My dogs have all of these, plus more. I can ask them to bark a specific number of times, also.

 

German Shorthaired Pointers are among the most gentle dogs I've seen. Viszla's are even better IMHO. I'd let either off a leash and play with kids of all ages anyday.

 

I agree, but many vizslas are very shy, which is why there is a new breed called the wirehaired vizsla which was crossed with a german wirehair to make the dog stronger and more self sufficient. A shy dog can in fact be a dangerous dog because more dogs attack out of fear than out of pure agression

 

Well! Vizsla's are stupid dogs, the only thing their good for is fetching ducks and my sister has a deep hatred for um and if I had been there I would have put a bullet in him. Hope somebody's Pitbull throttles that dumb dog of yours, so nobody else has to go through what she did. Ban those *******n Vizsla's.

 

Vizslas are dual dogs just like Shorthaires, the dumb ones are the show dogs that are bred to run in a circle in a dog show and that's all they ever do. The hunters are brilliant, I have heard before that Vizslas were dumb and I owned a dumb Shorthair once, I got her from a kennel that had a dog win best in breed at Westminster, she was the dumbest shorthair ever, I will never own a showdog again

 

Just playing off of your previous assumptions and misconceptions here. If there is risk to anyone would not that risk be the greater by far to me, the one who lives with the dog?

 

It's greater to others, always, but Pits will also attack their owners.

 

That's actually what we are starting next week! She's done great for 1x1s, so we are moving on to group play.

 

Well! in the way you explain that there are good Vizsla's and bad Vizsla's, there are really good Pitbulls and really bad Pitbulls. It all comes down to whether or not you get a dog from a good breeder and if you raise it with a lot of love. With all the problems in the world and all the death and misery caused by awful Humans, it seems as if the last thing we need is for dumb people making up Monsters out of a certain breed of dog they don't like. I've never been bit by a Pitbull and the ones I've seen have been very friendly, but I have been bit by 2 black labs, a Dalmation and a German shepherd, so I'd be more inclined to start banning those breeds first before Pitbulls.

 

Yes pits do kill their owners

 

No there are no good pits because they were all bred to kill, just like all huskies were bred to pull sleds

There was a grandmother in the UK who had her granddaughter eaten by her pitt while she put the garbage out, the grandmother was not a dogbaiter

 

And you need to face the fact that these statistics are highly, highly flawed. See the info I've already posted on that. Also, you do realize that plenty of other things have killed far more people, right? And that outlawing a breed (not that pitties are even a single breed to begin with) will likely have no effect on that number? Or that other factors like failure to train, failure to neuter and failure to take basic safety measures will probably matter more? Or that even the CDC denies the effectiveness of breed restrictions? Or that you want to outlaw all of these dogs based on what less than 1% of them will do, and that this is irrational?

 

Then why do the vast majority of them not kill anyone?

 

I have a coworker that got two pit bulls. I warned him before hand to research this before he dove in. His insurance company dropped him. He has a harder time finding a kennel that will take them. He takes them to training and doesn't encourage aggressiveness at all and yet he still doesn't trust them around other dogs or kids.

 

You know nothing about pitbulls.

 

And my friend runs a dog training service. Of all of her own pets, she uses her pitty as her "bulletproof" dog to socialize others because he is more patient than any of her other dogs and haven't shown aggression even when bitten by smaller animals. Hell, she's the only dog allowed around her cats. Gee, it is almost as if you have to judge these things based on the individual dog instead of misguided breed restrictions.

 

You are in denial, the stats are not flawed, pitbulls killed 71 percent of all people killed by dogs in 2016 the last year of full stats.

You are babbling, because you can not change the truth

 

Only a doofus that is too dumb or lazy to train their own dog use a dog training service......................

This is fact

 

And how have these Pits been bred to fight? By disgusting human beings. That is not to say they are all bred to fight. Any dog can be vicious. If not socialized and trained properly, any dog can attack and be unable to be called off. Personally, I’d like to see these deplorable human beings breeding these Pits to fight have their faces ripped off by a Pit.

 

Only someone incapable of confronting the facts needs to resort to desperate trolling. This is a fact.

 

The ones not bred to fight are descendant from those that were, since all the losers in these dog fights were killed only the vicious winners are left to create the genepool. This is why pitts are all dangerous and need to be spayed or neutered

Sorry kid

 

I've already posted info if you care to address it. The stats are highly flawed, for the reasons already provided. You are resorting to petty personal attacks because you can't address this fact.

 

And only a fool who ignores the facts owns a pitt

 

https://www.dogsbite.org/dog-bite-statistics-fatalities-2016.php

You are in denial

2016 dog bite fatality statistics2

• 31 U.S. dog bite-related fatalities occurred in 2016. Despite being regulated in Military Housing areas and over 900 U.S. cities, pit bulls contributed to 71% (22) of these deaths. Pit bulls make up about 6% of the total U.S. dog population.3
• Together, pit bulls (22) and rottweilers (2), the second most lethal dog breed, accounted for 77% of the total recorded deaths in 2016. This same combination also accounted for 76% of all fatal attacks during the 12-year period of 2005 to 2016.
• The breakdown between these two breeds is substantial over this 12-year period. From 2005 to 2016, pit bulls killed 254 Americans, about one citizen every 17 days, versus rottweilers, which killed 43, a citizen every 102 days (Related graph).
• In 2016, the combination of pit bulls (22), their close cousins, American bulldogs (2), and rottweilers (2) contributed to 84% (26) of all dog bite-related fatalities. Both American bulldog cases involved dogs acquired in Miami-Dade County, Florida.
• Labradors and their mixes contributed to 3 deaths in 2016, followed by 6 breeds, each with 2 deaths: American bulldog, Belgian malinois, doberman pinscher, German shepherd, mixed-breed, rottweiler and 2 cases with unreleased breed data.
• Annual data from 2016 shows that 42% (13) of the fatality victims were children ages 9-years and younger and 58% (1 were adults, ages 30-years and older. Of the total adults killed by canines in 2016, pit bulls were responsible for 67% (12).
• In 2016, female victims (16) were greater in number than male victims (15). Among children ages 9-years and younger, male deaths were greater, 62% vs. 38% and among adults 59-years and older, female deaths outpaced males, 75% vs. 25%.
• In 2016, infants 3 to 6-days old accounted for 31% of all child deaths. In one case, a pit bull-mix was lying in bed with the baby and its parents when it attacked. The family had adopted the dog 5-months earlier from the San Diego Humane Society.
• 42% (13) of all dog bite fatality victims in 2016 were either visiting or living temporarily with the dog's owner when the fatal attack occurred, up from 32% in 2015. Of this subset of 13 fatalities, 77% (10) were inflicted by pit bulls.
• In 2016, 32% (10) of attacks resulting in death involved a dog or person new to a household (0-2 month period). Children 9-years and younger accounted for 80% ( of these deaths. Of this subset of 10 fatalities, 70% (7) were inflicted by pit bulls.
• In 2016, 61% (19) of all fatalities involved more than one dog, up from the 11-year average of 44% (2005 to 2015). 35% (11) of all deaths involved 2 or 3 dogs and 26% ( involved a pack attack of 4 or more dogs, up from the 11-year average of 14%.
• 29% (9) of all dog bite fatalities in 2016 involved breeding on the dog owner's property either actively or in the recent past; pit bulls accounted for 67% of these deaths. 3% (1) involved tethered dogs, down from the 11-year average of 10%.
• Dog ownership information for 2016 shows that non-family dogs inflicted the majority of deaths, 55% (17). Of this subset, 59% (10) were inflicted by pit bulls. Conversely, only 19% (6) of attacks resulting in death occurred off the dog owner's property.
• Family dogs inflicted 45% (14) of all deaths in 2016; family pit bulls accounted for 86% (12) of these deaths, up from an 11-year average of 63%. Of the 22 fatal pit bull attacks, 55% (12) involved a family or household member vs. 45% (10) non-family.
• In 2016, only 6% (2) of all deadly attacks resulted in meaningful criminal charges; the lowest level on record.4 2016 also marked the first time a police officer's "personal" attack-trained K-9 killed a person; he was charged with two felonies.
• California led all states in fatal attacks in 2016 incurring 6 deaths; 67% of these deaths were inflicted by pit bulls. Florida, North Carolina and Texas each followed with 3 deaths. South Carolina, a routine dog bite fatality state, incurred no deaths.

 

Only someone ignorant of the facts or being deliberately misleading thinks that 1) this represents all, or even a majority, or even a significant fraction of pits or 2) that someone couldn't easily produce an image of a child attacked by another breed.