Pit Bulls should be banned in this country ! <<MOD WARNING - FOR RULE 9>>

I said one of the the main. Feral domestic animals are actually part of that encroachment

 

I've always been highly annoyed by people who religiously try to force rescue dogs on me. I'm a believer in getting dogs as young puppies and knowing where their bloodline came from. If my requirements are met with a shelter then great I'd get a shelter.

 

You feel forced? I only intend opportunity.

 

I didn't specifically mean you but there are alot of people who have tried to shove that idea down my throat when I told them I prefer higher end breeders.

 

Whether you have one or not, or want one or not, is immaterial to the salient point, which is that nobody needs a killer breed, nor should be dumb enough to acquire one because (and the clue's in the description) they can kill a human being - as opposed to, for instance, a chihuahua which couldn't even if it tried to?? My surprise here is that you don't have a dog nor want one.

 

Not good enough, because the attack will already have occurred, and the aim is to prevent such attacks rather than compensate someone who's had a chunk torn out of their calf muscle . . . or worse?

 

It isn't, it's in their genes.

I see references to 'Staffies' and 'Pitties' showing up - it that to make them seem more cuddly? Try to cuddle one of them and more likely than not they'll take a chunk out of your face.

 

That isn't to say you never will though, is it? (ffs! That's another version of 'Well he's never attacked anyone before!' Give me strength!! )

As I've just said - not that I ever thought it was something I would need to say to anyone with more than a few brain cells - the idea is to prevent attacks, not mitigate them after the event?

'pitties'

 

Mirabile dictu. We welcome you to the ranks of those who believe we need stringent regulation of guns, longer jail sentences and even death penalties for shooters do nothing for those who have been shot dead either

The attack will usually not have occurred in the first place if the dog owner has taken proper care of his animal, which he might be made to do by the carrot of a lower insurance rate if he does and the stick of having to have expensive insurance, which will usually preclude dog ownership for those unable or unwilling to make the effort necessary to properly keep such a dangerous brute.

I mean i'm trying to answer this in the context of 'Murica, where you have to worry constantly about people's FFFREEEDDOMMM when discussing matters which elsewhere are pure common sense. My Uncle from Old Blighty was viewing this conversation yesterday and didn't know what a Pit Bull was. When I showed him a picture he nearly spit out his tea. "That's a Mastiff, Good God, are you daft? We keep them outside to patrol the bounds at night on big manors with walls, nobody in his right mind would keep one of those monsters as a pet."

 

I didn't think you were Spanish - compliments on your English.

 

Yep. pure backwoods West Virginia vaquero . (I will work on my accent)

 

But Murcia is in Spain?

 

Feral domestic dogs do not form wolf like packs and go hunting, so in the USA at least, there is no such problem. You have created this to make it seem that other dogs pose the threat to humanity that the pit bull does.

 

The Grandmother who believed that her pit bull would protect her grandchild was indeed very foolish, because she listened to completely uninformed people like you, and left a child alone with a vicious barbaric killer that has no right to exist on the Earth.

See pit bulls are not a native natural species that has the right to be protected under endangered species rules, and as such they should all be neutered or euthanized until the breed is extinct.......................

 

It's the owner's responsability, not the dog's. Dogs are animals. It's like blaming the gun for the handler's crime... Now who would do that?

I am all for an animal-owning permit and stiff owner laws. There's too much sht left by idiots in the domain of dogs - here in Quebec we have the most lax laws about it, and as a result you see puppy factories popping everywhere, mistreating the individuals and appoverishing the genes. As another result dog shelters are full, and we end up euthanizing a lot. It is sad and costly.

I favour permits for driving vehicules, shooting weapons, and owning animals, as all of these can lead to death if mishandled.

 

Wrong, you can not compare dogs and guns, because guns are inanimate and NEVER make a conscious decision to kill. Pit Bulls do decide to kill, so comparing a piece of metal to a living creature is senseless

 

I guess you are in the nature not nurture camp. Evidently you must have had a bad experience with pits and there is nothing that will ever change your mind. If you believe a race of dogs cannot be any more than what they were used for in the past then you would also believe a race of people cannot be any more then what they were used for in the past.

The problem is that you want the government to have even more power in our private lives than they currently do now.

 

Pit Bulls are not a race......................but they do prefer to eat small children over adults because they pick the easiest target to kill

Reality is this, and you do not care this is what you are defending

 

I can and I will. Both exemples are complex in their use and require responsability. An individual should be prevented to own dogs - even a cat - for the same reason he should be prevented to own guns; Mental problems, past criminal infractions including violence, physical hability etc. The works.

Lack of doing so leads to deaths, quite predictly. That being said an unlawful use would be simpler in the case of a gun - kids can "borrow" their neighbours' pistol for a dirty deed, but they can't with their dog.

 

Do they ever come home or did you just release them because you were tired of them or had no use for them any longer? Did you turn them loose to turn feral or get killed by bears, wolves or mountain lions? Do you ever care if they don't come home?

 

The picture was intolerable. I won't bother moderators this time but in the future please advise posters before posting such horrors. This is intolerable, sensasionalistic sht. We all know what a dog attack can look like. The picture was useless for discussion's sake, and has churned my stomach on this placid morning.

 

Why are you being so defensive - do you have a 'pittie' or a staffie'? I'll bet you do!

 

Wild domestic dogs are a threat to everything and they don't have a natural fear of humans like wolves or wild animals which makes them a threat to us as well.

 

It isn't a matter of dogs, but one of decency. Advise before posting graphic stuff.

I do own a female rottweiler and a male pinscher (the small ones) that looks like her Mini-me. Both are quite popular with the kids around here. I always come across some kids I don't know but obviously they know my dogs' names.

 

Take my advice - don't let the kids near them, especially the er, 'rottie'! They can't be trusted - no dog can be trusted.