Gloria Allred’s Blunder on Roy Moore’s Yearbook Challenge

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  1. AFM

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    Ridiculous ^^
     
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    The rabid ideologues who are smitten with the sexual predator need to expose their imaginary conspiracy in which so many ordinary citizens, with knowledge of his lecherous ways in their community and with nothing to gain by telling the truth, have provided such consistent accounts.

    Who was behind the conspiracy?

    How was it coordinated?

    What did all his victims and those who related corroborative accounts gain by it?

    Weeks ago, Moore's wife insisted (with nothing to so indicate) that all the women accusing her husband of initiating inappropriate relationships with them as children have been paid by "his critics" and that she was "gathering the evidence."

    So, where is that promised "evidence" of any such payments? Who are the nebulous "critics" that paid them? Did Luther Strange organize the clandestine plot?

    Hardcore Moorelocks rage at such practical questions, but Americans have a right to answers.

    Surely, even the most groveling of Moore's amoral apologists must want to destroy such fanciful conspirators and expose who is behind it?

    Ooooo!

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    There is one accuser of sexual criminality which happened 40 years ago. The ethics committee of the US Senate should investigate and hear testimony should Moore be elected. This should also have been done with Franken and Conyers. The decision to resign their prerogative. What is striking about all of this is the absence of any form of due process and the reliance of conviction by public opinion based on unproven or verified in any way allegations. This is a very dangerous process driven in part by the media.
     
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    Given the weight of common testimony by those with no discernible self-interest in Moore's community regarding awareness of his habitual antics, it needs to be recognized that none has been discredited, despite promises the women who have told their stories were being paid to do so.

    Moore's lies are now, not forty years old.

    Each case of sexual impropriety differs - whether it concers Clarence Thomas, Bill Clinton, Donald Trump, Al Franken, John Conyers, or others.

    As Rep. Trent Franks, the latest to announce his resignation noted,

    "We are in an unusual moment in history – there is collective focus on a very important problem of justice and sexual impropriety. It is so important that we get this right for everyone, especially for victims."

    Too often, as in Moore's case, it is the victims who speak that are victimized a second time for doing so. Powerful, ambitious male politicians with amoral allies can and do inflict harm on innocents when they are unable to refute their accounts.

    If it can be shown that Moore's accusers were paid, as Moore's wife claims, where is the evidence that she said would be produced?
     
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    So the illib progs now advocate denial of due process for those who deny allegations. Wow.
     
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    I did not know even that you are a' "illib prog", whatever that is, but you should not confuse elections with criminal trials. It is the latter that entails "due process," of course. Moore is not on trial this time. He is a candidate for political office, and I expect the White evangelicals of Alabama to elect the molester.

    Meanwhile, Moore's wife assured us that his campaign was gathering evidence that showed all of the accusers against her husband were paid to come forward.

    Since the consistent accounts of Moore's obsession with teenage girls by so many in his community have not been refuted, and none has been shown to have a personal agenda or ulterior motive, is it not reasonable to ask, "Where is that evidence that she promised?"

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    And you advocate 'conviction' of someone who denies the allegations denial of due process. That is what is going on here. And all this based on the allegations of one individual of sexual abuse 40 years ago which came to light a couple of days after a candidate replacement deadline.

    That's OK with illiberal progressives.
     
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    You learn more about a person by the side of the argument he chooses. You defend sexual predators and I defend the victims. We just have different values. ....If you knew anything about the judicial system you would know that it is almost impossible to indict a man even for the most serious rapes. Women rarely go to court lying about rape.
     
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    Right wingers have this conspiracy Hang up....All these women who have come forward , who never knew each other all met in a secret cabal and made up stories
     
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    That's ridiculous. I'm advocating due process via the Senate (or House) ethics committee for all who are accused.
     
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    That's bizarre. Defense of due process is now the new defense of sexual predators.

    BTW you never gave a response to the hypothetical How's this "I hope you don’t have a son who is ever falsely accused of sexually abusing anyone."
     
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    Ideological zealots have no ethical qualms about demonizing victims who threaten their agenda.

    Fanatical ideologues, confronted by the consistent accounts of so many ordinary citizens with nothing to gain, some of them, at least, Republicans, who only spoke out reluctantly after being sought out by journalists, must conclude that it's a conspiracy organized by

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    Analyzed by whom?
     
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    No it wasn't. Turn the yearbook over to an actual examiner. The woman lied as well as Allred.
     
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    Please,tell me now you know...And you might educate yourself and learn nothing examiner was a legitimate accredited hand writing analysist. You can be sure if he didn’t write anything he would be suing up a storm
     
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    You might want to do your homework.


    “What a true forensic examiner will do is look at as many samples as possible from as broad a time period as possible,” Steven Drexler, a retired handwriting expert and document examiner from the Alabama Department of Forensic Sciences, told NBC News. “Everybody’s writing changes over time.”…

    “People have narrow or wide ranges of signature variations over time,” he said. “And some people have different signatures for different tasks. I know some attorneys who have what I call credit card signatures which are illegible and more formal legible signatures for court documents.”

    Drexler declined to weigh-in specifically on Moore, saying that anybody who would issue a judgement based on the available evidence is a fraud. “The woods are full of snakes,” he said.

    https://hotair.com/headlines/archiv...needed-know-moores-yearbook-inscription-real/

    Go back to grade school. Learn to tell the difference between fake news and reality. There are enough idiots around.
     
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    And they aren't going to.
     
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    Allred is a DNC operative? Egads.
     
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    Gloria Allred emails pop up regularly on Wikileaks hacked DNC emails.

    She's part of the corruption with in the Democrat party establishment.

    We who live in California are more familiar of Allred's dirty political tactics.

    You know what's funny ? Gloria Allred approved of her daughter working for Harvey Weinstein even after he was exposed of his Hollywood left sexual escapades which has been the norm of the Hollywood left for eighty years.
     
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    We who grew up in California don't care about ambulance chasing attorneys. I have this enduring mental image of Allred hovering literally inches from women accusers while they speak to the media. (Yeah, I know she is probably whispering legal advice in the accuser's ear.) My wife in that circumstance would tell Allred, "Get out of my face already while I'm talking."
    Actually, Allred was choked her daughter, Lisa Bloom, advised Harvey "Pig" Weinstein.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...torney-Gloria-Allred-criticizes-daughter.html

    :boxing:Just another case of daughter stickin' it to Mom...? :boxing:

    P.S. You would probably be happy to have either Allred or Bloom on your side in a knife fight.
     
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    There are no accusers who seek out Gloria Allred.

    Gloria Allred's law firm has it's own investigators who go out searching for potential accusers. The ploy is, want to make some money by suing someone in civil court ? You can do it by accusing a Republican politician of sexual harassment or something else and Gloria will handle it all for free and if you win in court, Gloria only wants 50% of what the jury awards you.

    Remember when Gloria Allread working for the Democrat party and Jerry Brown was assigned the mission to take down Meg Whitman during the 2010 California Governors race ?

    Gloria Allred sent out her investigators and found an unemployed illegal alien toilet cleaner and paid her to accuse Meg Whitman for back wages.
    The illegal alien was Nicky Diaz Santillan who used a forged social security card to get a job cleaning Meg Whitman's toilets in her home.

    When Meg Whitman discovered that Nicky Diaz stole someones identity (felony) and used a forged social security card (felony) to get Meg to hire her, Meg Whitman fired her butt.

    Jerry Brown yelled, Meg Whitman hired an illegal alien, she's not fit to be the Governor of California !!!

    I wonder how many thousands or tens of thousands of dollars that the Democrat party and Jerry brown paid Nicky Diaz through Gloria Allred ?

    Why didn't the Obama's DOJ prosecute Nicky Diaz for identity theft and using and being in possession of a forged social security card both felonies ???

    Why wasn't Nicky Diaz deported by Obama's ICE ???

    Why didn't Obama's IRS go after Nicky Diaz for not paying taxes on the money she was paid by Gloria Allred, Jerry Brown and the Democrat party ???
     
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