Pump-action shotguns -- how long before a ban?

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  1. gamewell45

    gamewell45 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I have several family members who are LEO's and except for one, all support strict gun control.

    Change the laws and 2nd amendment and I think you'll see those LEO's who currently won't support infringements on the 2A will suddenly support whatever changes have been affected.
     
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    "Day's hunting"? And no.
     
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    Then you stand on a falsehood.
     
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    gamewell45 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    We'll just have to agree to disagree on this thread.
     
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    Why do you use the word "need"?
     
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    I suppose people could do that, if they wanted to. Or they could keep their guns in their home, or carry them on their person. Lots of options.
     
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    gamewell45 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No, I support banning all weapons except bolt action shotguns, bolt action rifles and musketry. All else should be banned in my opinion.
     
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    Why keep guns in a gun club armory or vault ?
    For what reason ?

    What happens if I suddenly need a gun to defend myself and it is locked up in a vault far away ?

    What then ?
     
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    gamewell45 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That's your opinion and not mine.
     
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    Well good for you then, impose that ban on yourself.

    Your opinion, should only apply to you.
     
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    gamewell45 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If there are no guns it's a moot point.
     
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    You want to use the violence of the state to prevent people from using the self-defense tools of their choice. That seems rather mean and selfish.
     
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    gamewell45 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    if you don't "need" guns then it's a moot point.
     
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    But there are guns. So.....?
     
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    gamewell45 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I never said it applied to you or anyone else; however I would support a change to the 2nd amendment curtailing gun ownership as I have mentioned elsewhere.
     
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    Then either you are not being honest or none of them serve on the streets. I knew ONE officer I worked with who believed in gun control.... but he freely admitted he wanted no one to be able to own guns except cops because he thought only someone like him should be armed. Ironically, he was a guy who never practiced with his service weapon and often took multiple attempts to shoot the minimum qualifying scores to maintain his certifications.

    Let me know when you get anything close to the support needed for a Constitutional Amendment. I suspect you'll be waiting a LOOOOONG time.

    My opinion is based in reality. Yours..... not so much.
     
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    An Taibhse Well-Known Member

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    Given the level of credibility you’ve built posting here, forgive me (or not; don’t care) if I don’t believe you, unless you all live in a liberal bastion utopia state.
    As for the 2A, go for repealing or amending it, the Constitution provides that path... good luck on that.
     
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    Well that is pretty obvious.
     
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    ...And you don't comprehend how "rights" work, you don't understand how the Constitution works, and you don't understand how guns work. Your opinion is fallacies and hyperbole.

    You have the viewpoint of a dictatorial totalitarian utterly unconcerned with preserving freedom or liberty.
     
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    Why not tell the truth ?

    You support gun laws and restrictions on Law Abiding citizens, because no gun laws will ever be obeyed by hardcore criminals, the ones that do not obey laws against illegal drugs, prostitution, burglary and murder.

    And in what Country are those relatives,
    Law Enforcement agents ?
     
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    Where do you come with "no guns"?
     
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    No, the government isn't empowered to restrict rights based on someone's interpretation of "need". How do you not know this?
     
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    But you are a Foreigner, you live in a Foreign Country and one that has ZERO civil Rights compared to the U.S.A. and you have no say as to Our American Constitutional system or Laws.

    Why not fix your own Countries Woahs first ?

    You are, as you say, Moot, very Moot indeed...... MOOT !
     
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    An impossibility
     
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    If there are rainbow-farting unicorns, we'd have plenty of skittles.
     
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