A military strike against North Korea

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  1. pjohns

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    There was an interesting revelation in FNC tonight: President Trump is now weighing the views of his advisors, as regarding whether to strike North Korea, militarily.

    It really is not an easy choice. If any country was ever fully deserving of being on the receiving end of a military strike, it is North Korea. Yet such a strike would almost certainly precipitate a counter strike, by North Korea, against South Korea; and probably against Japan, also.

    Reportedly, some of the president's advisors favor a military strike against North Korea, whereas others do not.

    In any case, I would not expect such a strike to come within the next few days.

    Possibly not even within the next few weeks.

    And maybe not at all...
     
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    Is this why McMaster is out of there???
     
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    After the NK vermin shot down an unarmed US plane in international waters in 1969, Nixon should have gone in and ended them. He didn't make many mistakes, but that was one of them - like Reagan cutting and running after the 1983 iran/hezbollah scum bombed the US marines beirut barracks. Appeasing such animals only emboldens them to do worse, and in both cases they have.

    Filth like that only understands one type of response: a hard kick in the teeth, and I am praying NK and iran get theirs kicked right out of their mouths. Few are as deserving anywhere on earth.
     
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    Trump isn't attacking anyone. He'd have to go to congress before launching any kind of preemptive attack. And besides which "kicking NK in the teeth is easy to advocate when you don't live within 50 miles from Kim's thousands of artillery pieces and bioweapons. What's a few hundred thousand dead south koreans, when America is under "imminent" threat of total nuclear destruction by that little tinpot almost bankrupt dictator.

    Reality can serve a very positive purpose when attempting to war monger.
     
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    My gut feeling is that Trump is going to wait a while but that this problem will be resolved in his first term.
     
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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_Armistice_Agreement

    We are still at war, we didn't sign a peace treaty with them and so we could start hostilities with warning at will for any justified reason such as breaching the peace by developing and threatening to use weapons of mass destruction on us and our allies. In fact the Korean War never ended we just has an Armistice that never led to a final resolution not that both sides haven't tried. So as commander and chief during a war which would be the case he could deploy our armed forces as needed and attack without the consent of Congress and its iffy if International Law would be violated.

    He just wouldn't have an easy time using nuclear weapons in a first strike.
     
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    I am well aware of the meaning of armistice.

    he might wanna try the arbitrary breaking of the armistice agreement without the consent of congress, but he'd be TOAST if he did first strike. America will have become the evil empire and the world will go ape.
     
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    A military strike will be bad

    But the consequences of not striking are even worse
     
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    Technically the only problem would be to be sure where ALL the NK nukes are, to destroy them or to make them unable to take off.

    Solved this problem, US can deal with NK like Clinton administration decided to deal with former Yugoslavia. Nice bombardments to send them back to Middle Ages [a part that a large part of North Korean population live in a medieval condition!].

    Without posting personal opinions regarding military sensitive details, I think that US could attack NK with a high probability of success.
     
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    Uh, if nations got what they deserved, the US would be gone, nothing left. So, I would not hope that nations in general got what they deserve. For you would be 6 feet under. If you want to see who the war mongers are, just look at our war dept spending, compared to the rest of the nations on earth. The proof is always in the pudding. But some people of course, would never taste of this pudding, nor even look at it. They would deny its existence, even when in plain sight. Should be give any validity to what these people think? Of course not.
     
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    It's going to be a warning shot to damage specific missile sites and a limited strike would be enough to dissuade North Korea from conducting further tests. But no attack is forthcoming while negotiations are taking place between Koreans.
     
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    Why you just don't leave NK alone?
     
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    I doubt we will strike North Korea. I think we will simply accept North Korea as another nuclear state with ICBM's. We already accept that they have nuclear weapons. But I do agree with those who believe it is the only way to solve the problem without allowing the country become a nuclear state with ICBM's.
     
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    Because they refuse to bow.
     
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    When did Congress declare war on North korea?
     
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    oops... I hope Kim Jong Un's girlfriend doesn't accidentally sit on his nuclear button on his desk....


    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-01-14/ballistic-missile-threat-to-hawaii-a-false-alarm/9327562
     
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    Here’s the problem with “limited strikes”:

    When **** is exploding and the North Korean radars are covered in incoming cruise missiles and air craft, will *they* know it’s “only” a “limited strike”?
     
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    Something will have to be/will be done, there's only so many missiles launches that can be tolerated before one actually reaches any US territory and causes damage or lost lives.
    And those do called "enablers" are China and Russia to a lesser extent. The chinos can keep a leash on their cat, but they won't.
     
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    Do you seriously think their tests are attempts to reach America with one of them?

    Their last big test could have easily reached America if they wanted. But they deliberately went for a very high angle shot so it would land in the ocean.
     
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    I don't really get these posts. This is just the dumbest thing.

    In a few weeks we'll be having the Olympics in South Korea.
    Seoul got like I dunno.. 20 million people. NK doesn't need to nuke it.
    It can just shell it with artillery to pieces while it's nuking Japan.

    And in case of war... massive of poor uneducated North Korean's will flee to China and Russia.
    They don't want millions of uneducated indoctrinated gimps who need to be fed, housed, clothed etc.
    They also don't want the US army at their border. Hence they already promised to defend NK if the US starts a war.
     
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    Obviously, Obama is spoiling for a fight - a major war in order to undermine the peaceful world order and to spoil the earth with pollutants and turmoil the likes of which have never been seen.

    Blame Obama!
    Blame Obama!
    Blame Obama!
     
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    Because they continually threaten to nuke the US and US allies, and they are developing the capability to do just that. Or should the US just ignore all that and wait until NK is all nuked up and ready to do some real damage?
     
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    I get the distinct impression that Trump, Kelly, and Mattis will not leave this problem for some other future administration to deal with.
     

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